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(04-09-2025, 03:45 PM)vonclod Wrote: Here's a question.

Why does trade have to be equal? How can countries with vastly differing populations have equal trade? I mean sometimes it works out, but I imagine it's rare.

Just something I have been pondering.

Good question. I buy a PS5 game from you for $100. Later, you buy a 3D printer from me for $1000. That's a huge trade deficit and not equal, but I got what I wanted for the cost I was comfortable with and so did you. Is this equal trade per needs and wants or unequal trade because you received 1k and in order to be equal, I have to buy $900 in stuff from you to be equalized?
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(04-09-2025, 05:35 PM)AngryOldBrewer Wrote: Good question. I buy a PS5 game from you for $100. Later, you buy a 3D printer from me for $1000. That's a huge trade deficit and not equal, but I got what I wanted for the cost I was comfortable with and so did you. Is this equal trade per needs and wants or unequal trade because you received 1k and in order to be equal, I have to buy $900 in stuff from you to be equalized?

Exactly, we all buy what we want or can afford, equal doesn't really have anything to do with it.
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(04-09-2025, 05:35 PM)AngryOldBrewer Wrote: Good question. I buy a PS5 game from you for $100. Later, you buy a 3D printer from me for $1000. That's a huge trade deficit and not equal, but I got what I wanted for the cost I was comfortable with and so did you. Is this equal trade per needs and wants or unequal trade because you received 1k and in order to be equal, I have to buy $900 in stuff from you to be equalized?

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(04-09-2025, 05:29 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Make Coal Great Again

It's the most American of energy sources!

Reinvigorating America’s Beautiful Clean Coal Industry and Amending Executive Order 14241

My favorite part:


Yes, because coal mining, steel mills, and manufacturing are what kids want to grow up to do now! Especially something as safe and light on effort as coal extraction!

How do you get a kid to want to be a stuffy shaft in West Virginia for less than a California Starbucks barista makes?

We really need that coal for the increased power demands of forthcoming blue collar manufacturing and Skynet!

The utopia of working class timeclocks, white picket fences, cheerleaders, football stars, and malt shoppes will be forcibly reinserted by the spirit of Norman Rockwell... or else!

Best devote some executive orders to planning coastal infrastructure upgrades. He's not in Miami-Dade county but low end estimates are still for about 7 to 8 inches by 2050, with the really high end estimates of 60% of the county below sea level by 2060.

That seems far fetched, but still a good mindset to consider looking into windmills and pumps to keep dry ground below sea level, like Rotterdam.

Maybe they can take all that reclaimed wasted money they were paying employees and refit Elon's robots to do the actual mining for free. Gotta love free slave labour.
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(04-10-2025, 08:11 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Maybe they can take all that reclaimed wasted money they were paying employees and refit Elon's robots to do the actual mining for free. Gotta love free slave labour.

Research Long Wall mining lots of automation in foreign coal mines in Europe 

it is used in West Virginia and Kentucky coal mining but with the US curtailing coal mining it's not used elsewhere They can ramp up outputs to make it cost-effective. Which is what this does. 

it is still hazardous AF, but they're are lots fewer persons in danger than ever before, and those exposed to occupational hazards get paid extremely well. Coal mining supports hundreds of our clients in just those 2 states when it is curtailed these 2 relatively poor Appalachian mountain states have no other industries to fall back on.

Interestingly Europe has approximately the same amount of coal mines as the US  
Quote:The EU alone might have fewer mines than the U.S. due to aggressive phase-out policies (e.g., Germany closed its last hard coal mine in 2018 and plans to phase out lignite by 2038), but Poland and other Eastern European countries still operate dozens of mines. Russia’s 131 major mines alone outnumber the U.S.’s major producers, and when combined with smaller sites across Europe, the total could exceed the U.S.’s 500–1,000. However, without a comprehensive, up-to-date database for all of Europe (like the Global Coal Mine Tracker’s focus on larger mines), it’s hard to pin down an exact number. The U.S. figure is better documented and consistently lower than a broad European estimate.
So, to answer your question: As of now, there are likely a few hundred to over a thousand coal mines in Europe, depending on the scope, while the U.S. has around 500–1,000. Yes, there are probably more in Europe than in the U.S., especially if we include Russia and smaller operations, but not by an extreme margin like tens of thousands. The decline in both regions makes this a moving target, but Europe’s broader geographical and historical coal legacy tips the scale slightly in its favor.

Biden's suggestion to learn to code notwithstanding
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(04-10-2025, 08:32 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Research Long Wall mining lots of automation in foreign coal mines in Europe 

it is used in West Virginia and Kentucky coal mining but with the US curtailing coal mining it's not used elsewhere They can ramp up outputs to make it cost-effective. Which is what this does. 

it is still hazardous AF, but they're are lots fewer persons in danger than ever before, and those exposed to occupational hazards get paid extremely well. Coal mining supports hundreds of our clients in just those 2 states when it is curtailed these 2 relatively poor Appalachian mountain states have no other industries to fall back on.

Interestingly Europe has approximately the same amount of coal mines as the US  

Biden's suggestion to learn to code notwithstanding

Well, safer does not equate to safe, just saying.

It also appears the infrastructure just is not in place to quickly make this resource do what he wants it to do. Infrastructure building requires capital and will this capital come off the backs of hard working Americans, like everything else?
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(04-10-2025, 08:35 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Well, safer does not equate to safe, just saying.

It also appears the infrastructure just is not in place to quickly make this resource do what he wants it to do. Infrastructure building requires capital and will this capital come off the backs of hard working Americans, like everything else?

Never said suggested or inferred it was completely safe, the world is full of hazardous jobs, jobs that have to get done. 

So American coal mining industry gets regulated out of business while China's coal mining goes unabated and employees 100s of thousands 

I get the environmental impact but the US's mining now is a drop in the bucket we a better balance is all Im suggesting. 


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(04-10-2025, 08:49 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Never said suggested or inferred it was completely safe, the world is full of hazardous jobs, jobs that have to get done. 

So American coal mining industry gets regulated out of business while China's coal mining goes unabated and employees 100s of thousands 

I get the environmental impact but the US's mining now is a drop in the bucket we a better balance is all Im suggesting. 


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If we look at China's mining incidents/deaths, it is asking a high price in the way of human life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co...s_in_China
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They've come a long way haven't they despite Climate Change caused by Global Warming from the last few Ice Ages  Lol  

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So Adam Schiff wants to find out if the Trump family profited from the knowledge of political moves 

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