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(02-20-2026, 06:48 AM)Vermilion Wrote: I hope we never find life on other planets because there's no doubt that the U.S. Government will start sending them money!
-Donald Trump
June 4, 2014
https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/474188805541748736
Claims the individual who is blatantly deceiving the globe with his Peace Board, demanding a billion from countries to participate, has chosen to allocate 10 billion from the nation he oversees to this board. Let's not overlook the legal actions where he asserted he would determine his own compensation.
Additionally, he has appointed himself as the permanent leader of the peace board, engaging in all this deceit without any attempt to conceal it, operating openly where his devoted followers permit him. Supporters of Trump are utterly foolish.
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02-20-2026, 07:20 AM
This post was last modified: 02-20-2026, 07:21 AM by SteamyAmerican. 
(02-20-2026, 07:03 AM)Truthhurts Wrote: Claims the individual who is blatantly deceiving the globe with his Peace Board, demanding a billion from countries to participate, has chosen to allocate 10 billion from the nation he oversees to this board. Let's not overlook the legal actions where he asserted he would determine his own compensation.
Additionally, he has appointed himself as the permanent leader of the peace board, engaging in all this deceit without any attempt to conceal it, operating openly where his devoted followers permit him. Supporters of Trump are utterly foolish.
Meh.
Israel just doesn’t wanna head the Gaza 2.0 Playground for the Wealthy. It’s a bad look after you decimate a population with long-standing history. As for sending them $, we do that for nearly every other foreign entity, Israel included without any blowback except the the US citizens paying for it all. Trump’s bombastic bloviation is nothing new. Don’t get them panties twisted over it, or they’ll never come undone. And it ain’t good for blood flow to the noggin.
As for the presiding leader, it won’t mean nada when we get a new prez in a few years time. His get rich quick scheme lacks the moral integrity of the League of Nations, nor the UN at its onset.
But your point is valid and noted.
As for the current state of Eats and Earth. The movie Captive State comes to mind. The thing is it’s just a lot more terrestrial, exploitative, mundane, and violent with Jerusalem/Tel Aviv at the helm instead of aliens that color our earthly existence. So there is that.
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(02-20-2026, 06:14 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I think most Christians who are not of the die-hard lunatic sorts.
Would accept the existence of extraterrestrial life just fine in this day of age.
You would, same with me, it's a possibility.
The Abrahamic religions would have to reconstruct creationism.
Humans would no longer be alone at the top of the creation chain.
And Christ came as a human and died for humans to attain heaven.
So that would have to be relooked at .. does that include aliens?
He didn't come as an alien. So are they 'saved' too?
And what if the aliens are hostile? Why would God make humans on
Earth and make us special ... only to be wiped out or enslaved by
aliens? I guess that would mean that we aren't so special, eh?
Abrahamic theology would have to answer that.
There are a lot of theological questions that the Abrahamic religions
would have to answer. And I doubt they have the answers to them.
I worked with a fundamentalist christian woman a bunch of years ago.
This topic came up. She said aliens didn't exist because they aren't in
the bible, and if they existed then the bible would have said so.
That's the mindset of fundis. When (not, if, but when) it is revealed
that there is life on other planets, people like her are going to have their
heads explode. They won't be able to take it.
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(02-20-2026, 07:20 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: The Abrahamic religions would have to reconstruct creationism.
Humans would no longer be alone at the top of the creation chain.
And Christ came as a human and died for humans to attain heaven.
So that would have to be relooked at .. does that include aliens?
He didn't come as an alien. So are they 'saved' too?
And what if the aliens are hostile? Why would God make humans on
Earth and make us special ... only to be wiped out or enslaved by
aliens? I guess that would mean that we aren't so special, eh?
Abrahamic theology would have to answer that.
There are a lot of theological questions that the Abrahamic religions
would have to answer. And I doubt they have the answers to them.
I worked with a fundamentalist christian woman a bunch of years ago.
This topic came up. She said aliens didn't exist because they aren't in
the bible, and if they existed then the bible would have said so.
That's the mindset of fundis. When (not, if, but when) it is revealed
that there is life on other planets, people like her are going to have their
heads explode. They won't be able to take it.
Think you might be calling it with not so special
Out and about now Flyers, respond properly later.
Take care.
Edit: Where does the Bible claim Earth contains the only life in the universe?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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02-20-2026, 08:01 AM
This post was last modified: 02-20-2026, 08:02 AM by quintessentone. 
(02-20-2026, 07:20 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: The Abrahamic religions would have to reconstruct creationism.
Humans would no longer be alone at the top of the creation chain.
And Christ came as a human and died for humans to attain heaven.
So that would have to be relooked at .. does that include aliens?
He didn't come as an alien. So are they 'saved' too?
And what if the aliens are hostile? Why would God make humans on
Earth and make us special ... only to be wiped out or enslaved by
aliens? I guess that would mean that we aren't so special, eh?
Abrahamic theology would have to answer that.
There are a lot of theological questions that the Abrahamic religions
would have to answer. And I doubt they have the answers to them.
I worked with a fundamentalist christian woman a bunch of years ago.
This topic came up. She said aliens didn't exist because they aren't in
the bible, and if they existed then the bible would have said so.
That's the mindset of fundis. When (not, if, but when) it is revealed
that there is life on other planets, people like her are going to have their
heads explode. They won't be able to take it.
The Pope seems to think if extraterrestrials visit us that they can be baptised.
"As of early 2026, Pope Leo XIV—the newly elected pontiff—has sparked speculation about a potential Vatican disclosure on UFOs. Former Vatican adviser Danny Sheehan claims Pope Leo XIV may lead the Church in revealing classified information about extraterrestrial life, aiming to integrate science and theology. Sheehan also noted that the Pope’s choice of name—Leo XIV—echoes the last Pope Leo, who founded the Vatican Observatory, fueling theories about the Church’s long-standing interest in cosmic phenomena.
While no official press conference on aliens has occurred as of February 2026, the Vatican continues to explore theological implications of extraterrestrial life, with recent statements from Vatican officials affirming that aliens, if discovered, would be considered children of God and potentially eligible for baptism."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news...s-36485638
The Catholic church has had a rich history and open mindedness about the unimaginable extent of God's work throughout the heavens, including extraterrestrials and welcoming them into the fold
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Newsflash: Trump, on the news this morning, said he does not know if aliens exist.
"The only journey is the one within."
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02-20-2026, 08:10 AM
This post was last modified: 02-20-2026, 08:11 AM by FlyersFan. 
(02-20-2026, 08:01 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The Pope seems to think if extraterrestrials visit us that they can be baptised. I'm well aware of what both Pope Leo and St. Pope John Paul II have said about aliens.
That's personal opinion and not spoken 'ex cathedra' as doctrine.
Doesn't change the fact that massive shifts in Abrahamic religions would have to take place
if it is confirmed that aliens are intelligent and visiting us. Among the shifts ... creationism.
The recent Catholic popes have said evolution is acceptable because it doesn't dismiss
Gods creating hand. However, if you add in aliens that are more intelligent you have to
have the discussion about if their souls exist and if they are 'saved' since Christ came as a human
and 'saved' humans so they could gain entry into heaven. He didn't come as an alien.
And another discussion on creationism and aliens, etc.
There is A LOT of theology that would have to be reconsidered.
The Hindus would do just fine. Their religion already has 'gods' in crafts in the sky
having dogfights etc etc. Their religion already incorporates the possibility of aliens.
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(02-20-2026, 08:10 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I'm well aware of what both Pope Leo and St. Pope John Paul II have said about aliens.
That's personal opinion and not spoken 'ex cathedra' as doctrine.
Doesn't change the fact that massive shifts in Abrahamic religions would have to take place
if it is confirmed that aliens are intelligent and visiting us. Among the shifts ... creationism.
The recent Catholic popes have said evolution is acceptable because it doesn't dismiss
Gods creating hand. However, if you add in aliens that are more intelligent you have to
have the discussion about if their souls exist and if they are 'saved' since Christ came as a human
and 'saved' humans so they could gain entry into heaven. He didn't come as an alien.
And another discussion on creationism and aliens, etc.
There is A LOT of theology that would have to be reconsidered.
The Hindus would do just fine. Their religion already has 'gods' in crafts in the sky
having dogfights etc etc. Their religion already incorporates the possibility of aliens.
When the Catholic church leaders say the extraterrestrials will be welcomed and baptized, you can bet your bottom dollar that it will make a big difference in accepting all of God's work in creation throughout the heavens.
"The only journey is the one within."
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I honestly think Trump has some kind of an superiority complex when it comes to Obama. Who knows why?
Obama made the press talking about aliens, so Trump has to take it to the next level and act like he knows more.
It's like when you post and a person comes on and tries to say they have special knowledge that you don't, they have a superiority complex and need to to make others look less knowledgeable.
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
Charles Tremper
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(02-20-2026, 08:31 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I honestly think Trump has some kind of an superiority complex when it comes to Obama. Who knows why?
Obama made the press talking about aliens, so Trump has to take it to the next level and act like he knows more.
It's like when you post and a person comes on and tries to say they have special knowledge that you don't, they have a superiority complex and need to to make others look less knowledgeable.
Obama spied on Trump during the elections for 2016.
I'm sure Trump is still not happy with Obama because of that.
Honestly, no one should be happy with Obama because of that.
But now that we know Trump was planning on making some kind of announcement in regards to aliens, I'm thinking Trump is just ticked off that Obama stole his thunder. Obama didn't say anything classified. He just said what probably most people think ... that the universe is a big place so there probably is life out there. But Trump wants to be the big guy who does 'disclosure', so he got upset and thought Obama was stepping on his toes.
That's my guess anyways.
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(02-20-2026, 08:31 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I honestly think Trump has some kind of an superiority complex when it comes to Obama. Who knows why?
Obama made the press talking about aliens, so Trump has to take it to the next level and act like he knows more.
It's like when you post and a person comes on and tries to say they have special knowledge that you don't, they have a superiority complex and need to to make others look less knowledgeable.
Obama is superior to Trump, maybe that is why (?)
"Barack Obama's exact IQ is not officially confirmed, but estimates based on his academic achievements and LSAT scores range from 130 to 155. - CheckIQ estimates his IQ at 155, placing him in the top 0.01% of the population and surpassing entry requirements for elite societies like Mensa and the Triple Nine Society.
- Other sources suggest a range of 140 to 145, with Celebrity IQs and U.S. Constitution.net citing 145 as a common estimate.
- A detailed analysis using his LSAT score of 43.5 (equivalent to a percentile rank) suggests an estimated IQ of 148, with a composite estimate around 140 when accounting for test correlations.
- His academic record—graduating magna cum laude from Harvard Law School and becoming the first Black president of the Harvard Law Review—supports these high estimates. " (LLM)
"The only journey is the one within."
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