Trump Announces Alaska Summit with Putin

[Oldcarpy2]

Supporting Ukraine with arms has only prolonged the slow-motion loss we see occurring and sustained the deaths of their people...many of which don't even wanna fight. Also...more importantly and in typical corrupt Ukraine fashion...now we have high tech military arms in the hands of bad people like the cartels and probably our enemies in the ME. Supplying them is going to end up shooting ourselves in both feet.

Slow motion indeed.

Ukrainians  don't wanna fight?

Jeezus...

[putnam6]

And Ukraine kidnapping people off the streets to fight with maybe 2 weeks training is gonna do anything. Most of the troops they have are looking gor the first opportunity to escape. Meanwhile Russia still has volunteer soldiers mostly. A lot of the Russians enlisting do so for the money and know what they are getting into for that money.

The whole point of attritional war is to burn out the enemies manpower...which is happening before our eyes. Things move slow...until a breaking point is reached...then it all starts cascade failing and the winner just steamrolls it all. If peace isn't reached Russia will end up with all of Ukraine...and I don't think anyone wants to see that.

To win, Ukraine needs sustained and consistent air parity, if not superiority

 

Currently, Ukraine is far from achieving air superiority due to Russia’s larger air force, sanctuary over its own territory, and advanced electronic warfare capabilities. To gain an edge, Ukraine would need more F-16s, trained pilots, and consistent Western support for air defense munitions, alongside integrated air-ground operations to neutralize Russian GBAD. Even then, full air superiority is unlikely; localized control at critical times and places is a more realistic goal. The conflict remains characterized by attrition, with neither side able to dominate the skies comprehensively.

[RickyD]

probably more painful and vital areas too..

You have been saying that since this started, right?

So have I, 

It was obvious then and obvious now... 

And there's still no plan to retake the lost 120,000 square kilometers from Putin, nothing, zero nada nyet

Just mega doses of hopium and a smidge of copium...

Yes my position on the whole thing has been the same since it all kicked off in 2014. The west over played their hand trying to pull Ukraine into a western sphere of influence and puppetry. They thought they could pull it off without Russia fighting back. They were wrong and even back then as the Nuland call was exposed I was saying how this would blow up in our faces. Then we started sending arms to Ukraine and I said they would do what they have always done and sell some off for personal monetary gain...and it has been shown that this has happened too. When war popped off I said they would end up in this attritional warfare situation and Ukraine just doesn't have the manpower to win...back when they didn't have to kidnap people to fight. Had they just followed Minsk agreements they would still have everything but Crimea...now they will for sure lose Donbass too which is their richest region in terms of resources...and Russia gets a land bridge to Crimea.

All the while I am told how I am a Putin sympathizer and Russian propagandist... I am just making honest observations...all of which seem to have been pretty accurate. I really don't care about either side in this fight western nations included. I live in the US I care about all the problems we have here...they actually effect me...not the political games and covert games being played on the boarders of a sovereign nation half way around the world. Also not for nothing but if the same type of thing was happening on our boarders I would hope the US would do everything up to including military action to shut it down.

Wish the cheerleading would stop and people would take an honest look at whats going on.

[Vermilion]

Slow motion indeed.

Ukrainians  don't wanna fight?

Jeezus...

That’s correct.
Reports say 600,000-1,200,000 fighting aged males left Ukraine when Russia swooped in.
Surely you’ve seen the videos of the trains full of them headed out to Poland and destinations unknown.
So many of them that they even outnumbered the women and children on those trains.

[Oldcarpy2]

Yes my position on the whole thing has been the same since it all kicked off in 2014. The west over played their hand trying to pull Ukraine into a western sphere of influence and puppetry. They thought they could pull it off without Russia fighting back. They were wrong and even back then as the Nuland call was exposed I was saying how this would blow up in our faces. Then we started sending arms to Ukraine and I said they would do what they have always done and sell some off for personal monetary gain...and it has been shown that this has happened too. When war popped off I said they would end up in this attritional warfare situation and Ukraine just doesn't have the manpower to win...back when they didn't have to kidnap people to fight. Had they just followed Minsk agreements they would still have everything but Crimea...now they will for sure lose Donbass too which is their richest region in terms of resources...and Russia gets a land bridge to Crimea.

All the while I am told how I am a Putin sympathizer and Russian propagandist... I am just making honest observations...all of which seem to have been pretty accurate. I really don't care about either side in this fight western nations included. I live in the US I care about all the problems we have here...they actually effect me...not the political games and covert games being played on the boarders of a sovereign nation half way around the world. Also not for nothing but if the same type of thing was happening on our boarders I would hope the US would do everything up to including military action to shut it down.

Wish the cheerleading would stop and people would take an honest look at whats going on.

Puppetry?

Ukrainians kicked out a Russian puppet .

Honestly indeed.

Sad to see evil West but Russia good.

[Oldcarpy2]

That’s correct.
Reports say 600,000-1,200,000 fighting aged males left Ukraine when Russia swooped in.
Surely you’ve seen the videos of the trains full of them headed out to Poland and destinations unknown.
So many of them that they even outnumbered the women and children on those trains.

Right.  So how many Russians have avoided conscription?

Sad to see so many Americans supporting Putin.

But not surprising.

So much for the Free World..

[putnam6]

Yes my position on the whole thing has been the same since it all kicked off in 2014. The west over played their hand trying to pull Ukraine into a western sphere of influence and puppetry. They thought they could pull it off without Russia fighting back. They were wrong and even back then as the Nuland call was exposed I was saying how this would blow up in our faces. Then we started sending arms to Ukraine and I said they would do what they have always done and sell some off for personal monetary gain...and it has been shown that this has happened too. When war popped off I said they would end up in this attritional warfare situation and Ukraine just doesn't have the manpower to win...back when they didn't have to kidnap people to fight. Had they just followed Minsk agreements they would still have everything but Crimea...now they will for sure lose Donbass too which is their richest region in terms of resources...and Russia gets a land bridge to Crimea.

All the while I am told how I am a Putin sympathizer and Russian propagandist... I am just making honest observations...all of which seem to have been pretty accurate. I really don't care about either side in this fight western nations included. I live in the US I care about all the problems we have here...they actually effect me...not the political games and covert games being played on the boarders of a sovereign nation half way around the world. Also not for nothing but if the same type of thing was happening on our boarders I would hope the US would do everything up to including military action to shut it down.

Wish the cheerleading would stop and people would take an honest look at whats going on.

Yep 100% when I have chance there's an interesting X.com post about that, Ill see if I can find it
 

the last

@Dronetakeoff0
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Jun 1

In February 2014, John McCain, US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt, and Victoria Nuland observed the Maidan Square protests in Kyiv, Ukraine. Viktor Yanukovych’s pro-Russian policies and his decision to suspend an EU association agreement. This decision led to widespread unrest and ultimately resulted in Yanukovych’s ousting. This event is significant because it underscores the US involvement in installing Zelensky from the very beginning. Here can hear them talking in excitement about it being once in a generation and if there are  flags down there. Stating, “there will be one somewhere.”

Ian Miles Cheong


@stillgray
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Feb 3


In February 2014, at Maidan Square, you had John McCain on camera like he's at a movie premiere, next to Geoffrey Pyatt, the US ambassador to Ukraine, with Victoria Nuland, the queen of neocon foreign policy, lurking in the background. They're all grinning, clearly loving their part in the globalist playbook to oust the democratically elected President Yanukovych, using tax dollars through USAID to fund this so-called "revolution". This is how the deep state plays the game.

[Oldcarpy2]

Yep 100% when I have chance there's an interesting X.com post about that, Ill see if I can find it

Yanukovych?



BBC News - Profile: Ukraine's ousted President Viktor Yanukovychhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25182830

He's your hero?

I give up on this BS.

Carry on...

[RickyD]

Puppetry?

Ukrainians kicked out a Russian puppet .

Honestly indeed.

Sad to see evil West but Russia good.

This is why we can't have a productive conversation on the matter. You willfully ignore that it wasn't Ukraine kicking Russian puppets out but the west doing so. You have done nothing but push an untrue narritive since day 1...if you are going to take sides at least be honest...

[RickyD]

Yanukovych?

BBC News - Profile: Ukraine's ousted President Viktor Yanukovychhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-25182830

He's your hero?

I give up on this BS.

Carry on...

This is what I mean by not having honest conversation...point out where he said hero.

No one is calling him a hero here...

If you give up why are you always right there to make dishonest comments and push a false narrative? I actually wish (edit for spelling) you would give up along with the other dishonest narrative pushing posters so we could have productive conversation and maybe we learn some things...