Trump Announces Alaska Summit with Putin

[putnam6]

I just told you.

They're not.

I'd lay off of Grok, if I were you.

If I were you... shudders... even though Im sure it would be nice economically... 

So billions invested in AI is 100% wrong...

as if Grok AI's is less accurate than the Wiltshire Wizards' word of wisdom... the hubris. 

What point presented by Grok do you contend is wrong?

Grok deals with percentages and possibilities, not platitudes of emotion...

There's nothing wrong with Grok's assessment

 

Why Russia Might Prefer to Continue FightingDespite these incentives, Russia’s actions suggest it is not fully committed to negotiations unless they meet its maximalist goals. Several factors support your observation that Russia is focusing on defense and may not be eager to negotiate:

• Battlefield Momentum: Russia’s slow but steady advances in Donetsk (e.g., around Pokrovsk) and the capture of strategic locations like Vuhledar in October 2024 indicate it believes it can achieve more territorial gains through military means. Posts on X from May and August 2025 highlight Russia’s perception of a “highly successful offensive” in Donetsk, suggesting confidence in its military position.
  
• Uncompromising Demands: Russia’s insistence on Ukraine’s full withdrawal from the four annexed regions, neutrality, and demilitarization, as reiterated in August 2025, is seen as a non-starter by Ukraine and its allies. These demands align with Putin’s long-term goal of restoring Russia’s regional influence, suggesting negotiations are more about dictating terms than compromising.
  
• Skepticism of Western Guarantees: Russia’s distrust of Western commitments, coupled with Ukraine’s rejection of territorial concessions, reduces the appeal of negotiations unless they guarantee Russia’s core objectives.
  

[FlyersFan]

The only way Ukraine reclaims all its land is if Russia is defeated militarily, economically, and politically.

.... and Putin has to be dead.   
He'd keep going even if his 'troops' were all 75 year old men living on bread and water.

[Oldcarpy2]

If I were you... shudders... even though Im sure it would be nice economically... 

So billions invested in AI is 100% wrong...

as if Grok AI's is less accurate than the Wiltshire Wizards' word of wisdom... the hubris. 

What point presented by Grok do you contend is wrong?

Grok deals with percentages and possibilities, not platitudes of emotion...

There's nothing wrong with Grok's assessment

I'd lay off getting personal, too. if I were you.

This:

"Silly rabbit, Russia is already at 70% of its stated territorial goals, tell me how close is Ukraine to taking back those territories."

What does Grok say is Russia's stated territorial goals?

I've already told you I don't think Ukraine can't take back what it has lost 

Russia's stated goals included demilitarisation of Ukraine and the rest.

[RickyD]

Population numbers do indeed make Russia look like it has more manpower.

But wars aren't just about who has more young people.

Russia's bigger pool doesn't automatically mean it would win a war of attrition.

Morale, training, and logistics, never mind technology, play their part in that game also. 

And Ukraine might be smaller, but it's got highly motivated forces and external support by way of NATO and its other allies.

Plus, not all of Russia's 18–25-year-olds are available or willing/able to fight.

I would not wish to send my children off to the front lines to die for Putin's wet dream, and i dont know anybody sane that would.

And Ukraine kidnapping people off the streets to fight with maybe 2 weeks training is gonna do anything. Most of the troops they have are looking gor the first opportunity to escape. Meanwhile Russia still has volunteer soldiers mostly. A lot of the Russians enlisting do so for the money and know what they are getting into for that money.

The whole point of attritional war is to burn out the enemies manpower...which is happening before our eyes. Things move slow...until a breaking point is reached...then it all starts cascade failing and the winner just steamrolls it all. If peace isn't reached Russia will end up with all of Ukraine...and I don't think anyone wants to see that.

[putnam6]

.... and Putin has to be dead.   
He'd keep going even if his 'troops' were all 75 year old men living on bread and water.

I agree

He will not let go of all the territory gained...

The one thing Putin was right about NATO wasn't ever going to send troops, and risk wider escalation over Ukraine. 

So we can continue to piss away lives, homes, livelihoods, and billions in support for a few kilometers of dirt in a still corrupt graft graft-filled country, and pretend it's as solid an ally as the rest of NATO.

Hell, I'm of the opinion that instead of Uncle Sam giving NATO bucks from now on, it will be better to just supply Ukraine to the level Uncle Sam has financed NATO.

NATO EU, and UK are nowhere near as resourceful and now battle-hardened and experienced, ergo a much better counter to Russia than relying on New Somalia on the Thames

[xuenchen]

Why don't you post about   Putin's street thug and then his KGB career?

The rest of the World (look it up) watched in horror when Trump blamed Zelensky for starting the War and tag teamed him with JD Vance in that shameful shit show.

As for Trumps career, there are his bankrupted businesses, including a Casino for goodness sakes, and presenting a reality TV program.

Just for balance.

Sure......

[RickyD]

I agree

He will not let go of all the territory gained...

The one thing Putin was right about NATO wasn't ever going to send troops, and risk wider escalation over Ukraine. 

So we can continue to piss away lives, homes, livelihoods, and billions in support for a few kilometers of dirt in a still corrupt graft graft-filled country, and pretend it's as solid an ally as the rest of NATO.

Hell, I'm of the opinion that instead of Uncle Sam giving NATO bucks from now on, it will be better to just supply Ukraine to the level Uncle Sam has financed NATO.

NATO EU, and UK are nowhere near as resourceful and now battle-hardened and experienced, ergo a much better counter to Russia than relying on New Somalia on the Thames

Supporting Ukraine with arms has only prolonged the slow-motion loss we see occurring and sustained the deaths of their people...many of which don't even wanna fight. Also...more importantly and in typical corrupt Ukraine fashion...now we have high tech military arms in the hands of bad people like the cartels and probably our enemies in the ME. Supplying them is going to end up shooting ourselves in both feet.

[xuenchen]

Of course they can't recover lost territory.

But you conveniently forget that in exchange for Ukraine giving up it's nukes, the US agreed to protect its sovereign integrity.

This is an A.I. assessment:

U.S. Ukraine Protection Agreement

This is UNCONFIRMED!

U.S. Ukraine Protection Agreement

As of August 17, 2025, a significant development has emerged regarding U.S. commitments to Ukraine's sovereignty. According to a U.S. envoy, President Vladimir Putin has reportedly agreed to allow the United States and Europe to offer NATO-style security protections for Ukraine, marking a potential shift in Russia's stance on the issue. This concession, described as "game-changing," represents the first time Russia has reportedly agreed to such a proposal, potentially serving as a workaround to its longstanding objection to Ukraine's NATO membership. The agreement reportedly involves Russia agreeing to enact a law prohibiting it from attacking other European countries and violating their sovereignty.......

[putnam6]

Supporting Ukraine with arms has only prolonged the slow-motion loss we see occurring and sustained the deaths of their people...many of which don't even wanna fight. Also...more importantly and in typical corrupt Ukraine fashion...now we have high tech military arms in the hands of bad people like the cartels and probably our enemies in the ME. Supplying them is going to end up shooting ourselves in both feet.

probably more painful and vital areas too..

You have been saying that since this started, right?

So have I, 

It was obvious then and obvious now... 

And there's still no plan to retake the lost 120,000 square kilometers from Putin, nothing, zero nada nyet

Just mega doses of hopium and a smidge of copium...

[xuenchen]

Of course they can't recover lost territory.

But you conveniently forget that in exchange for Ukraine giving up it's nukes, the US agreed to protect its sovereign integrity.

Is this it? ....

Budapest Memorandum

Here's another A.I. intersect.....

"The Budapest Memorandum did not constitute a mutual defense pact or a legally enforceable obligation for the U.S. to militarily defend Ukraine, but it did include a commitment to consult if questions arose about these assurances. The U.S. and U.K. have been criticized for not taking military action when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and launched a full-scale invasion in 2022, actions widely seen as clear violations of the memorandum’s principles."