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(08-10-2025, 05:04 PM)RickyD Wrote: Meanwhile the US has installed and backed more dictators around the world than probably any other country...well maybe not as many as the British Empire when that was a thing but I will stick to modern times.
That's a good thing?
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(08-10-2025, 04:54 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Please detail your plan.
Explain it like I'm slow. He can't...never has given any realistic plan or idea about how to solve the situation and refuses reality on the subject entirely.
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(08-10-2025, 05:05 PM)RickyD Wrote: He can't...never has given any realistic plan or idea about how to solve the situation and refuses reality on the subject entirely.
Maybe, you missed my last post?
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(08-10-2025, 05:04 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/10...lan-summit
"The European leaders, in their joint statement, stressed their belief that the only approach to end the war successfully required active diplomacy, support for Ukraine, as well as pressure on Russia. They also said any diplomatic solution to the war must protect Ukraine’s and Europe’s security interests."
That sort of thing?
Isn't that what Trump is doing?
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This post was last modified: 08-10-2025, 05:17 PM by putnam6. 
(08-10-2025, 03:57 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I couldn't be bothered to read your wall of text.
But yeah, get all personal when you lose a discussion.
Sad.
Point is, Zelensky is interested in discussing peace, despite your spurious claims that he isn't.
No, he won't lose his shit, that was Trump and Vance that did that and embarrassed the World (IE outside of your American bubble).
Trump is losing against Putin.
But, carry on defending shite and bollox.
Quite what my avatars have to do with this discussion, escapes me.
'Good day, peasant "?!!!
M'kay.....
Yeah, and that's why I mostly ignore your posts...
In a moment of weakness or boredom, I thought maybe, just maybe, there might be a semi-informative thought...
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart
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(08-10-2025, 05:16 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Yeah, and that's why I mostly ignore your posts...
In a moment of weakness or boredom, I thought maybe, just maybe, there might be a semi-informative thought...
[Video: https://youtu.be/WDM_ZohMCGk?si=4o_oIDh_JPqh_fV0]
Ah. Another personal attack.
You disappoint me, you puppy.
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(08-10-2025, 05:14 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Isn't that what Trump is doing?
No. He's sucking up to Putin and throwing Ukraine and Europe under the bus.
Cheers for that.
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(08-10-2025, 05:11 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Maybe, you missed my last post?
No...I saw it. We are on what like the 16th round of sanctions? That stuff only works with countries we control or are on side with the west. Remind me what India told Trump in response to sanctions? As long as gas and oil continue to make money Russia will shrug off the sanctions. I remember everyone saying they wouldn't be able to keep producing missiles and drones and all that because the sanctions blocked access to components needed to make such things...here we are years later and their production levels are higher than ever...and they are upgrading designs and still coming out with newer versions of weapons. Hell the EU still buys gas from Russia to this day...
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(08-10-2025, 05:27 PM)RickyD Wrote: No...I saw it. We are on what like the 16th round of sanctions? That stuff only works with countries we control or are on side with the west. Remind me what India told Trump in response to sanctions? As long as gas and oil continue to make money Russia will shrug off the sanctions. I remember everyone saying they wouldn't be able to keep producing missiles and drones and all that because the sanctions blocked access to components needed to make such things...here we are years later and their production levels are higher than ever...and they are upgrading designs and still coming out with newer versions of weapons. Hell the EU still buys gas from Russia to this day...
Great.
So what happened to Trump's last threat to Putin?
Oh, TACO...
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(08-10-2025, 05:23 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: No. He's sucking up to Putin and throwing Ukraine and Europe under the bus.
Cheers for that.
When the UK does it, it's diplomacy.
When Trump does it, it's sucking up.
Got it.
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