Times Have Changed

[PorkChop96]

Escalating a verbal altercation into violence is just assault. In the US of all places it's probably not worth escalating a situation when the other person could be armed, might have the ability to "follow you home" whether that's via dash cam footage or another way.

Consequences are harder to escape these days and that's a good thing.

What isn't a good thing?

The complete lapse of emotional regulation.

Kids rarely ever just smash their toys, your TV and seemingly randomly scream at things. They learn that shit, adopt it from the morons who dragged them up. So therefore it's a safe conclusion that some in their life did a shoddy job of teaching emotional maturity but then it's hard to teach something you never had isn't it?

Kids being raised by bigger kids directly results in more humans having emotional dysregulation. A trait they often share?

Violence is very optional.

If they are armed, that would make 2 of us. And out of the 2, I can almost guarantee they will be armed for nothing. 

Not sure where you are viewing the world from but here in the US, consequences are a foreign concept that most people under the age of 30, and some above that, can't seem to comprehend. 

There is a vast difference in throwing a tantrum and slapping someone for talking to you, and someone getting slapped for being in your face to verbally accost you. Most people don't understand that difference so they lump them together and see the latter as worse than the former. 


I was raised by a father with a heavy hand, learned at a young age that I was not immune to consequences. That is unheard of these days because those that were raised the same way I was, but never learned from their mistakes, see that as abuse. There, again, another vast difference between abuse and leaning your lesson. If you got his hand multiple times a day every day, that is abuse. If you broke your moms jewelry box after being told to not play around it and got it once, that is learning a lesson. 


Violence is always an option, and sometimes the only option to deal with certain people. If I tell you 10 times to get out of my face when you approach me at random to tell me how you feel about my clothes or hat or whatever, and you ignore that. Violence will teach you the lesson you need to learn.

[PorkChop96]

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[quintessentone]

I don't care what they're going through. That doesn't give them the right to take it out on someone else. People who do that generally feel entitled to abuse other people because they've always gotten away with it in the past.

Less coddling and more good ol' fashion bitch slap seems to improve their manners very quickly.

If they don't have the restraint to control themselves, what happens next is on them.

So do you think proper behaviour and good manners is to physically assault someone who may be having a mental breakdown or some other type of issue because you are unable to control your emotions and think beyond yourself?

[PorkChop96]

So do you think proper behaviour and good manners is to physically assault someone who may be having a mental breakdown or some other type of issue because you are unable to control your emotions and think beyond yourself?

Do you think it's proper behavior for them to take out their emotional issues on you? 

Is it okay for random people to attack you in your car? Follow you home from the grocery store? Stalk you in your own home? 

someone else's emotions are not my problem, nor do I care to make them my problem. Be an adult and handle yourself as such or you will suffer the consequences of your own actions. Simple as that

[Moon68]

The usual players are showing up to tell you that you are an overemotional man-child unable to control violent outbursts because someone needs a ass-whooping. They apparently know nothing of the Fighting Words Doctrine.

The USSC first defined it in 1942 in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, words which,"by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality."

This was narrowed down in 1949 in Terminiello v. Chicago when the Court found that words that which produce a clear and present danger is not protected speech though words inviting dispute even cause unrest are protected.

This was clarified further in 1951 in Feiner v. People of the State of New York that inciting a riot creates a clear and present danger and is therefore not protected speech.

Now the biggie. In 1989's Texas v. Johnson, the USSC redefined the scope of "fighting words". The Court stated words that are "a direct personal insult or an invitation to exchange fisticuffs" are not protected. If you walk up to a person of color and start shouting the N-word in their face, expect to get slapped around. If someone says they are going to harm you or your family you absolutely have every right to issue a smackdown.

Really what it seems to boil down to is that too many people these days are victims of "gentle parenting" and never received a dearly needed whooping. They grew into adults that believe their words and actions shouldn't have consequences because they're a special snowflake, as unique as every other snowflake.

[quintessentone]

Do you think it's proper behavior for them to take out their emotional issues on you? 

Is it okay for random people to attack you in your car? Follow you home from the grocery store? Stalk you in your own home? 

someone else's emotions are not my problem, nor do I care to make them my problem. Be an adult and handle yourself as such or you will suffer the consequences of your own actions. Simple as that

You are not in any position to hold any higher ground on manners or proper behaviour because you don't bother to put in any effort to control your own issues.

You do make others' emotions or their issues your problem, you internalize it, then you say you will choose violence and to disobey the law by deciding you will choose physical assault over walking away or calling the cops.

Time for you to take control of yourself isn't it?

[David64]

So do you think proper behaviour and good manners is to physically assault someone who may be having a mental breakdown or some other type of issue because you are unable to control your emotions and think beyond yourself?

Re read my original post.

For many people these days "mental breakdown" is "My dog is sick so I get to be a raging asshole to everyone I meet because THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND" and you seem to think it's ok for them to not control their emotions, but if someone reacts to them, it's wrong.

boohoo. sniffsniff.

Maybe learn to realize the whole world doesn't revolve around your mental frailty and you don't get to take your problems out on others.

[quintessentone]

Re read my original post.

For many people these days "mental breakdown" is "My dog is sick so I get to be a raging asshole to everyone I meet because THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND" and you seem to think it's ok for them to not control their emotions, but if someone reacts to them, it's wrong.

boohoo. sniffsniff.

Maybe learn to realize the whole world doesn't revolve around your mental frailty and you don't get to take your problems out on others.

You have the choice to walk away and poof it's gone.