The Ten Commandments and the changed Roman Catholic version

[TheWay]

Incorrect.  Catholics are the ones that actually follow the bible.   THEY WROTE IT.   I gave John 6 as an example.  You failed to address it. 

  Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.   Jn 6:53–54

Only the Catholic Church has the priest with apostolic succession (Acts 1:21-26, Timothy 1:6 and 4:14) ... who have the authority granted them by Heaven itself (Matthew 16:18-19) to consecrate the bread and wine changing them into the Body and Blood of Christ Himself for consumption ... per the order of Christ at the Last Supper (“This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me” (Luke 22:19).)

If you do not eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, you are lost.  That's the words of Christ.

The Bible was written by God's chosen prophets, not Roman Catholics.

Yes, believer's are commanded to celebrate the Lord's Supper. But don't confuse this with the idolatrous sun worship ritual of the Roman Catholic Church called the "eucharist".

[TheWay]

But you have probably read The Great Controversy. The greatness of the U.S. being separation of Church and State; religious liberty as fought for and practiced in Roger Williams' Rhode Island colony. And how deviation from that separation and freedom leads to bad things.

Now the reason I mentioned the NAR (New Apostolic Restoration) is because I grew up in a nice peaceful town (excepting that time the two biker gangs showed up at the road house, yeah that wasn't peaceful at all. But the roadhouse was outside the town limit so that doesn't count. And the Nazi group was fringe of the fringe, so didn't run the newspaper or anything like that, and the vigilantes were patrons of one particular bar, not all three bars).

The town's Christian Churches didn't go around raiding each other for members. But then one day, a High School teacher joined an out of town cult and brought it back to town. He started spreading it amongst the youth. Kids quit their own churches to follow the Prophet who was under an Apostle. Parents were freaking.

So I joined the cult and listened to see what their message actually was. To summarize "We present day Apostles and Prophets are the chosen of God to rule over you as was Moses and Paul. If you don't accept our rulership then you will suffer the fate of Korah, Dathan and Abiram (see Numbers 16)."

So after 3 weeks I left that cult. They were NAR. That group has people in top levels of U.S. government and in top advisor roles.

Negative, I have not read The Great Controversy book, but I know of it and even owned it at one stage but later threw it in the bin. Seventh Day Adventist's distribute it for free where I live. Very early on in my faith, after I'd met some Seventh Day Adventists at a rally after they stumbled across me holding a Christian sign, I was invited to a Seventh Day Adventist online conference where a high up influential leader in their organisation asked me if I was going to read The Great Controversy, to which I replied I was going to finish reading the Bible first. Thankfully, the Bible set me on the right course and I stopped associating with them soon after.

Interesting about the NAR, I've never heard of it before, but it certainly has some very prominent false teachers and influential individuals as members. Thank you for informing me about it.

[UltraBudgie]

don't confuse this with the idolatrous sun worship ritual

it is called an ostensorium and it is what the wizard uses to draw attention to the magic cookies and there is nothing pagan about it at all!

(just having a laugh, don't take it too seriously)

[TheWay]

Some would call all the gospels bound together with all it's contradictions and as being fiction, such as the contradiction of how the women acted after visiting Jesus' tomb; Luke 24:9, Mark 16:8.

Common sense does not play any part here.

Matthew, Luke and John say the women left the tomb and shared their news (Matthew 28:1-10; Luke 24:1-12; John 20:1-2); Mark seems to be saying that they left and told no one because they were afraid (Mark 16:1-8). How can these accounts be reconciled?

Here are some possible explanations:

• That Mark is referring specifically to the women speaking of the angel's words, not of speaking of the fact that the tomb was empty.
  
• That Mark is referring to the women not speaking to those men who were there at the tomb: i.e. the soldiers who were supposed to have been on guard.
  

 
E.g., Matthew records that the women experienced both (initial) fear and (then) great joy, whereas Mark only takes note of their initial fear.
 
As a further observation, it is perhaps worth noting that the Greek underlying "they said nothing to anyone" (Mark 16:8) has "said" in the aorist aspect (οὐδενὶ οὐδὲν εἶπον), which in Koine Greek typically conbeys simple past action and does not qualify the duration, completion, or repetition of the action. We might translate the second portion of Mark 16:8 as "Neither did they say anything to anyone [at that moment]". This is consistent with the other accounts which also do not record the women speaking in the tomb, only afterwards.




Resources & Articles:
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/q...e-249-with
https://www.yourdictionary.com/aorist

[FlyersFan]

The Bible was written by God's chosen prophets, not Roman Catholics.

Yes, believer's are commanded to celebrate the Lord's Supper. But don't confuse this with the idolatrous sun worship ritual of the Roman Catholic Church called the "eucharist".

The Bible was written by the Catholic Church.
Catholic men in Catholic councils decided which books were inspired by God and which were not.
Last council the Council of Carthege in 397AD.
It was approved by the Pope.    It's a Catholic book.

And again you fail to address what the bible says.  It doesn't just say 'celebrate the Lords Supper'.

Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.   Jn 6:53–54

Only the Catholic Church (and the Orthodox church) has the priest with apostolic succession (Acts 1:21-26, Timothy 1:6 and 4:14) ... who have the authority granted them by Heaven itself (Matthew 16:18-19) to consecrate the bread and wine changing them into the Body and Blood of Christ Himself for consumption ... per the order of Christ at the Last Supper (“This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me” (Luke 22:19).)

If you do not eat the flesh and drink the blood of Christ, you are lost.  That's the words of Christ.

Oh ... and it's not 'sun worship'.   That's pathetically stupid and typical of indoctrinated fundamentalists.   

You have my pity.  Seriously.   Hateful, smug, and oh so ignorant.

[FlyersFan]

it is called an ostensorium and it is what the wizard uses to draw attention to the magic cookies and there is nothing pagan about it at all!

(just having a laugh, don't take it too seriously)

It's called a monstrance and it is a fitting vessel that the ordained priest uses to place the Eucharist, which is the Body of Christ, in so that the people can adore Christ.   And yeah, there is nothing pagan about it at all.

[UltraBudgie]

It's called a monstrance and it is a fitting vessel that the ordained priest uses to place the Eucharist, which is the Body of Christ, in so that the people can adore Christ.   And yeah, there is nothing pagan about it at all.

ostensorium monstrance
potato potato
tomato tomato
same thing



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrance

[FlyersFan]

The author of this thread has created three hate filled fundamentalist threads full of indoctrination and massive error all aimed at the Catholic church and Catholics in general.

I used to live in Alabama and had to put up with this kind of smug hate filled nonsense for nine years while there.   These smug indoctrinated people didn't know what they were talking about and hated everyone who didn't worship exactly like them.  I was so glad when we moved out of that area.  

Disgusting lot.  They give Christianity a bad name.

    I'm done .... the author of this thread can't be educated.   He has my pity.

[TheWay]

It's called a monstrance and it is a fitting vessel that the ordained priest uses to place the Eucharist, which is the Body of Christ, in so that the people can adore Christ.   And yeah, there is nothing pagan about it at all.

There we go everybody—FlyersFan confirmed that there is nothing pagan about this golden-sun vessel at all.

[UltraBudgie]

There we go everybody—FlyersFan confirmed that there is nothing pagan about this golden-sun vessel at all.

Meh, weak argument that it's an indication of sun worship. There's ones used for similar purpose in their pageantry that don't have the sun-ray thing. The idea is that it's to draw attention to the top guy holding the special Jesus stuff, so something shiny and attention getting makes sense there.

There's other arguments like the appropriation of the fertility festival of Eostre, and the praying to saints, that make more sense...