The Ten Commandments and the changed Roman Catholic version

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Mary: The Roman Catholic church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual virgin, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the fleshly mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). Acts 4:11-12 declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. 1 Timothy 2:5 proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men. Here Mary is given the same status as other believers (Matthew 12:46-50). Furthermore, worship of the “queen of heaven” is not a new concept, but was also practiced in Biblical history by pagans, provoking the LORD God to anger and wrath (Jeremiah 7:18, Jeremiah 44:25-30).

- Catholics do not worship Mary.  That's not what her title 'queen of heaven' means.  The Catholic church is clear - worship belongs to God alone.  It's in the Catechism.  I suggest you read it.

- Co-redemptress does not mean that Mary redeemed man.  It means that the redeemer came through her cooperation with God.   And at this point it's not a title for her.

- Intercession of the Saints is biblical.  Jesus said we are to pray for each other and to ask others to pray for us.  That's all the intercession of the saints is ... asking those in Heaven to pray to God for us.   They are awake, aware, and active... the bible says so.  Totally biblical.  Your 'asleep in the grave' is dead wrong.  (pardon the pun    )  Who better to ask to pray to Jesus for you than His own mother who is in Heaven with Him.  

- There is nothing in scripture that states Mary had other children.  In fact, there are hints that she did not.  For example, when Jesus was dying on the cross He gave Mary to St. John saying 'behold they mother, behold they son".  If He had siblings He couldn't have done that.  She probably was a virgin her whole life.  The 'brethren' of Christ talked about in scripture could be Josephs children via an earlier marriage, cousins, or even people who believed just like Him.  When Matthew 1:25 tells us that Joseph had no relations with Mary “until she bore a son,” this does not mean that Mary and Joseph had marital relations after Jesus’ birth. In 2 Samuel 6:23 we read how “Saul’s daughter Michal was childless until her death.” This does not mean she had children after her death.  

- Scripture states clearly to hold onto sacred tradition that is passed on by word of mouth.  That's exactly what the Catholic church has done in regards to Mary.  Thessalonians 2:15   And the early church wrote about her.  There is more than just sacred scripture to look to for historical information.

Marys cooperation role in salvation is important

The Church Fathers found many foreshadowings or prefigurements of Mary in the Old Testament. They saw her as the woman at enmity with the serpent (Gn 3:15); the “New Eve” who will be “the mother of all the living” (Gn 3:20); “the daughter Zion” (Zec 2:14), and “the Ark of the Covenant” (Ex 40; cf. Rv 11:19). In 2 Samuel 6:9, David says: “How can the ark of the Lord come to me?” In a very similar way in Luke 1:43, Elizabeth exclaims: “And how does this happen to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” David dances with joy before the ark of the Lord (2 Sm 6:14-15) just as John the Baptist leaps for joy in the womb of St. Elizabeth when Mary, carrying the child Jesus in her womb, approaches (Lk 1:41). Mary is also foreshadowed as the king’s mother in 1 Kings 2:19; as the “closed gate” of perpetual virginity in Ezekiel 44:1-2; and as the Virgin Mother of Emmanuel in Isaiah 7:14 (cf. Mt 1:23).
 In the New Testament, Mary plays a central role because she is the mother of Christ, the redeemer. St. Paul alludes to Mary in Galatians 4:4-5, and all four Gospels speak of her. Mary is shown as the Virgin Mother of Emmanuel (Mt 1:22–23) who flees to Egypt with Jesus and Joseph (Mt 2:13-21). In the Gospel of Luke, Mary is prominent at the Annunciation (1:26-38) and the Visitation (1:39-45). Also in Luke, she prays the Magnificat (1:46-56), gives birth to Jesus (2:1-7), presents him in the Temple (2:22-38) and later finds him in the Temple preaching among the teachers of the law (2:41-52).
 In John’s Gospel, Mary appeals to Jesus at the wedding feast of Cana to perform his first miracle (2:1-12); she’s also present at the foot of the cross where Our Lord gives her as mother to John and (by extension) to all Christians (19:25-27). Mary is present with the apostles in the upper room praying for the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost (Acts 1:14). In Revelation 12, Mary is seen as the woman clothed with the sun, about to give birth. She is opposed by the dragon who wishes to devour her son. 

All about Mary

St. Thomas Aquinas -  If God freely chose to redeem us by “being born of a woman,” then it necessarily follows that this woman, Mary, is central to his salvific plan.

St. Teresa of Kolkata - “No Mary, no Jesus.”

Mary is spoken of as “full of grace” (“kekaritomene”) which in Greek means one who has been and continues to be “favored” or “graced” by God.   Since Jesus is fully human but without sin, it was necessary, then, that he take his human nature from one who is “full of grace” and thus free from all sin.   God works outside of the constraints of time.  The merits of Christ were applied to Mary in anticipation of her future role as the mother of God. Thus, Mary was redeemed by Christ when she was conceived.

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The bible is a CATHOLIC book.

Who Compiled the Bible

Although the New Testament canon was not determined until the late 300s, books the Church deemed sacred were early on proclaimed at Mass, and read and preached about otherwise. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities.

 The process culminated in 382 as the Council of Rome, which was convened under the leadership of Pope Damasus, promulgated the 73-book scriptural canon. The biblical canon was reaffirmed by the regional councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397), and then definitively reaffirmed by the ecumenical Council of Florence in 1442.

 Finally, the ecumenical Council of Trent solemnly defined this same canon in 1546, after it came under attack by the first Protestant leaders, including Martin Luther. 

CCC#85 "The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ."47 This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome.

CCC#86 "Yet this Magisterium is not superior to the Word of God, but is its servant. It teaches only what has been handed on to it. At the divine command and with the help of the Holy Spirit, it listens to this devotedly, guards it with dedication and expounds it faithfully. All that it proposes for belief as being divinely revealed is drawn from this single deposit of faith."

Jesus Church is the 'pillar and ground of the truth' when it comes to the scripture and teachings ..

1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

And it's the CATHOLIC Church which is the Church Christ established.  (the earliest kept written copy of the word 'Catholic' being used for the church is 107AD - it's on display at the vatican)

All authority given by Christ Himself to His church, the Catholic church ... Matthew 16:18-19 - And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. [sup] [/sup]I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

[Creaky]

Yes, all of Jesus' commands apply. You can only live this way after being born again and filled with God's Holy Spirit.

Matthew 5:17 "fulfil" = plēroō (G4137) - Jesus came to cause God's will (as made known in the Law) to be obeyed as it should be, and God's promises (given through the Prophets) to receive fulfilment (Isaiah 42:21; Matthew 5:17-48). Christ brought the Law to full expression, realization, or meaning, magnifying it and making it honourable.

Which commandments are we required to keep?
In total, there are some 613 Old Testament commandments and 1,050 New Testament commandments throughout the Bible, with some being applicable to new covenant Christians and others no longer. In essence, Christians today are no longer required to keep the ceremonial laws given through Moses, which were fulfilled by Christ; however, everything else outside of this, both Old and New Testament, still applies. Among those that still apply to Christians today are the Ten Commandments, the many commandments of Christ, and the commandments dictated by the various New Testament Apostles and Prophets.

ok, so can you define ceremonial laws, moral laws and civil, how do I tell them apart?
Any bible explanations?
I can’t find any references to explain how to understand the different laws you obey. 

And I am guessing Christs death was a waste of time, he failed to forgive sin?

[Creaky]

The bible is a CATHOLIC book.

But it wasn’t a Roman Catholic book

     This is, of course, an untrue claim. One that is easily rejected both on a historical and ethical basis. The Bible is the product of all orthodox Christian churches, and of them, the Roman Catholic church was demonstrably the single most driving antagonistic force against the translation and distribution of the Bible as we know it today. Let’s walk through this together.

https://indefenseofgrace.com/the-bible-i...olic-book/

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But it wasn’t a Roman Catholic book

Yeah .... it was and is ...

Who compiled the bible

Although the New Testament canon was not determined until the late 300s, books the Church deemed sacred were early on proclaimed at Mass, and read and preached about otherwise. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities.

 The process culminated in 382 as the Council of Rome, which was convened under the leadership of Pope Damasus, promulgated the 73-book scriptural canon. The biblical canon was reaffirmed by the regional councils of Hippo (393) and Carthage (397), and then definitively reaffirmed by the ecumenical Council of Florence in 1442.

 Finally, the ecumenical Council of Trent solemnly defined this same canon in 1546, after it came under attack by the first Protestant leaders, including Martin Luther.

[Creaky]

Yeah .... 

Nah…

https://indefenseofgrace.com/the-bible-i...olic-book/
     “Part of Roman Catholicism’s false conflation of their denominational history with the Christian church comes from their claim that the Bible is a Roman Catholic book. In fact, the conflation of these histories drove the literal writing of a book, conveniently titled for the sake of my argument as, The Bible is a Catholic Book, which has been featured heavily in Roman Catholic media.”




Believe as you wish, it wasn’t all written well before the papacy took control, they just shuffled pages 
And your quote details an ecumenical council in Florence, refutes your own argument 

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 The Bible is the product of all orthodox Christian churches,

Nope.  I gave the Catholic councils that produced the bible.  Read up.
Orthodox churches didn't exist when the bible was created in the 300s.

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And your quote details an ecumenical council, 

Catholic councils, hun.
There were no other Christian churches back in the 300s.
The ones in charge were the Catholics.  Pope and all.
No orthodox, no lutherans, no methodist ....

[Creaky]

Nope.  I gave the Catholic councils that produced the bible.  Read up.
Orthodox churches didn't exist when the bible was created in the 300s.

So who were the ecumenical councils in your quote? 
and, the bible wasn’t created in the 300s, it was just settled what was considered inspired
The writings were compiled before Constantine, just settled on what should be concluded in the 300s

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the bible wasn’t created in the 300s, it was just settled what was considered inspired

... which created the bible.