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The Patterson-Gimlin Footage.
(10-30-2025, 06:52 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: I’m not the one ignoring there is a chain of people that admit to wearing the costume and making the costume with acknowledging that it was modified to look like crazy 1960’s pulp fiction depicting of an unrealistic female Bigfoot.  Where the entire anatomy of the buttock and upper body move like a lifeless suit of padding.

And I'm not the one ignoring all the other counter arguments proving those claims to be false. The costume looks nothing like the 'Patty' film, Bob Heironimus didn't claim to be Bigfoot till the 90s and his own brother claimed he was lying,  

In the re-scanned film, it's claimed that the arse cheeks do move, and some recent re-scans you can see buttocks.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-30-2025, 06:55 AM)Kurokage Wrote: You're

Supposedly your the one that wanted to go back to the film since you can’t produce an actual flesh and bone Bigfoot as a specimen?  So only have faith in cons. 

Now that it’s cited a person has admired to wearing the suit.  A person admits to making the suit.  That Patterson bought a suit.  That the suit was modified to look like an unrealistic pulp fiction female Bigfoot published in the 1960’s.  And shown and pointed out the suit moves like a padded suit.  You don’t want to post about the video?
(10-30-2025, 06:58 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Just pointing out facts that get lost or ignored or people don’t want to admit to.


Funny how people pick and choose facts to create a narrative like “You seem to be the only person able to make out so much detail” after a gif of the legs was crated and posted.  And provided as needed. 

Smilegrin

Which is what I've done, with you blatantly not watching. I've read both sides of the argument over the years and have come down on the fence. But you seem to only want to see one side of the argument.

It's also very sad that you accuse me being able to see detail not there, yet you're posting clips saying you can clearly see this and that.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-30-2025, 07:05 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote:  And shown and pointed out the suit moves like a padded suit.  You don’t want to post about the video?

I don't agree with you.

It looks like possible pixel distortion or shadow movement. but it's blurry to make out the detail you're claiming.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-30-2025, 07:02 AM)Kurokage Wrote: In the re-scanned film, it's claimed that the arse cheeks do move, and some recent re-scans you can see buttocks.

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Nope.  Still moves like a big padded dipper with nothing like muscle movement for locomotion.  Nor for turning the upper torso and maintaining balance.




 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-30-2025, 07:07 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Which is what I've done, with you blatantly not watching. I've read both sides of the argument over the years and have come down on the fence. But you seem to only want to see one side of the argument.

It's also very sad that you accuse me being able to see detail not there, yet you're posting clips saying you can clearly see this and that.
 

If you think Bigfoot is flesh and bone like a bear or mountain lion that have a history of being captured and tagged, then produce an actual Bigfoot as a specimen.

Until then, you only have faith in a community proven to be inundated with cons and frauds with no ability to police themselves and set standards.  With the drama who is or isn’t a fraud or con. Where Bigfoot hunters are incompetent where researches yearly capture and tag bears and mountains loins.  

Don’t know what to tell ya.
(10-30-2025, 07:20 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote:  

If you think Bigfoot is flesh and bone like a bear or mountain lion that have a history of being captured and tagged, then produce an actual Bigfoot as a specimen.

Until then, you only have faith in a community proven to be inundated with cons and frauds with no ability to police themselves and no standards.  With the drama who is or isn’t a fraud or con. Where Bigfoot hunters are incompetent where researches yearly capture and tag bears and mountains loins.  

Don’t know what to tell ya.

I see again you never watched the 30 minute video, as you've posted within 5 minutes of me posting it, but still come on to try to derail the thread!?!?
Go and watch it. Then come and discuss it rather than make ridiculous claims and then throw a tantrum when you fail, and tell me to produce a dead one!!



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper




 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(10-30-2025, 07:24 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I see again you never watched the 30 minute video, as you've posted within 5 minutes of me posting it, but still come on to try to derail the thread!?!?
Go and watch it. Then come and discuss it rather than make ridiculous claims and then throw a tantrum when you fail, and tell me to produce a dead one!!

What do you not get videos are not evidence of a flesh and blood Bigfoot.  I can bring up videos the earth is flat and of Smurfs all day long.

It’s pretty simple.  The Bigfoot community is wrought with frauds and cons.  They make no attempt to set a governing body and police themselves.  They even squabble over who is a con or fraud among themselves.  It’s a joke.

I can accept that Bigfoot might be supernatural.  Some sort of spirit.

You are the one that keeps up that Bigfoot has to be flesh and bone like a bear?  Where most Bigfoot sightings are probably bears.

It’s really simple.  Until a flesh and bone Bigfoot is captured and provided as a specimen in a world where flesh and blood mountain lions and bears are captured and tag each year.  You only have faith.  And that faith is based on the Bigfoot community heavily inundated with proven cons and frauds.  Or campfires stories.



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