The Patterson-Gimlin Footage.

[Kurokage]

And yet, I post the reality of the situation.  Where a physical flesh and bone Bigfoot cannot be produced.  Then you try to belittle the reality of the situation.  And then you poo poo that Bigfeet might very well be supernatural.

Sorry, there is no evidence Bigfeet are flesh and bone.  And you posts show you have too much faith in cons and campfire stories.

You need to look over all the years of reports, sightings form hunters, police, and the general public  before you scream con.    There's no concrete evidence either way is all I'm saying and all I've said, but You've decided for some reason I'm here to prove to you Bigfoot exists.
Also please show me how I have 'faith' in all of this??? How many times can I say that I find the subject interesting and don't believe either way. I've added videos and data just to appease your arrogance on the subject, and all I get is "where's the dead one??" from you. Go and do you own research without your biased opinion and know it all attitude.

If you feel that someone needs to prove this to you, then maybe start a thread asking members for all and any evidence that proves bigfoot is real. 
Here's an interview from your favourite researcher Dr Meldrum..



Here's the supposed earlist reports of from those known con-men, the Vikings...
https://sasquatchchronicles.com/the-olde...in-986-ad/

Apr 28The oldest account of Bigfoot was recorded in 986 ADThe oldest account of Bigfoot was recorded in 986 AD by Leif Ericson and his men. During their first landing in the New World, the Norsemen wrote about manlike beasts that were “horribly ugly, hairy, swarthy and with great black eyes.”
Leif Ericson Among his accounts, Leif told of seeing huge hairy men who towered over him and his men. The “huge hairy men”, according to Leif, lived in the Woods and had a rank odour and a deafening shriek. It should be noted that Leif Ericson and his men describe huge manlike beasts that were loud and foul-smelling and clearly distinct from native peoples. Apparently, Leif had several sightings of the “huge hairy men” before departing the island.
They called the creature “Skellring”. People believe that the creature “Skellring” is what we know today as Bigfoot. This is the earliest recorded encounter with Bigfoot, or Sasquatch.

Some early reports on 'wildmen' before Bigfoot got it's name....
https://newenglandfolklore.blogspot.com/...ry-of.html

August 28, 1891 - People riding a coach through Winsted, Connecticut see a large animal run across the highway and leap over a fence. It stands on two legs. The passengers think it may be a gorilla. The New York Times speculates it is a gorilla that escaped from a circus several years ago and was sited in nearby South Norfolk the previous winter. However, the Times also notes that some Winsted residents think it might be a wild man known to live in the area.

September 8, 1891 - A Mrs. Culver of Colebrook, a town near Winsted, frantically reports that the wild man/gorilla spent the night sleeping on her porch. Six police and many civilians search the area but nothing is found.

August 21, 1895 - Winsted Selectman Riley Smith is out picking berries with his dog in Colebrook when he sees the wild man emerge from a clump of bushes. The wild man, who yelled loudly as he ran past Smith, is described as "a large man, stark naked, and covered with hair all over his body." Both Smith and his dog were terrified and fled the area.

[WallFlowerActive]

I also think that's half the problem with the so called experts on both sides of the argument.

One of Bigfoots biggest supporters, Dr Jeff Meldrum, a professor of anatomy, anthropology, and bipedal locomotion, died on September 9th this year. He had one of the biggest collections of footprint casts.

Your post doesn’t seem very impartial.  Seems like an appeal to authority.  That’s one thing flat earthers get right.  Question and prove to yourself.  

If this guy thought Bigfeet were flesh and blood.  Or people like him.  Why not group with zoology experts and actual hunters to go on a Bigfoot expedition to tranquillise and tag a Bigfoot?

They could piggyback off already existing efforts to capture and track bears.

This Week in Fish and Wildlife: Researchers track grizzly bears to monitor population, movement



https://youtu.be/wn48sDRUQCU

Be a natural extension.  

Think of the funding a college would get if the captured a Bigfoot for examination, tagging, and tracking.  

Yet, there is nothing flesh and bone to capture.

[Kurokage]

Your post doesn’t seem very impartial.  Seems like an appeal to authority.  That’s one thing flat earthers get right.  Question and prove to yourself.  

If this guy thought Bigfeet were flesh and blood.  Or people like him.  Why not group with zoology experts and actual hunters to go on a Bigfoot expedition to tranquillise and tag a Bigfoot?

They could piggyback off already existing efforts to capture and track bears.

This Week in Fish and Wildlife: Researchers track grizzly bears to monitor population, movement
[Video: https://youtu.be/wn48sDRUQCU]

https://youtu.be/wn48sDRUQCU

Be a natural extension.  

Think of the funding a college would get if the captured a Bigfoot for examination, tagging, and tracking.  

Yet, there is nothing flesh and bone to capture.

I'm not here to listen to you whine if I'm impartial or not.
It's an interesting subject, why else are you posting in the thread??
I'm neither a flat earther or believer in 'make believe' Demons. I'm posting, as this was a very big subject on ATS with many members on both sides of the argument. and lots like me who just found it a fascinating subject.  With so many reports dating back to the first nation people, the Vikings, and early settlers, who wouldn't be interested??  
There's 55,000 Grizzlies in America, but as I posted for you yesterday,  conservation biology uses the “minimum viable population” (MVP) concept to determine the smallest number of individuals needed to sustain a species. This frequently varies from a few hundred to a few thousand individuals for large mammals. This range takes into consideration variables like environmental pressures, reproduction rates, and genetic diversity.
So if it did exist it's numbers could be as low as a few hundred to a few thousand. 

Also Dr Meldrum is dead!! Which I told you yesterday.

[WallFlowerActive]

I'm not here to listen to you whine if I'm impartial or not.

I’m not whining about anything.  Pointing out the obvious.

You placed authority on Dr Jeff Meldrum.  Who could have actually gone out to do field research and chose not to.  For something he believed in.  How many books did he write, but could not put out one trail camera.  Sit in a blind for an hour?  Put an expedition team together through the college?  Sounds like a graduate program to me.  

Why wouldn’t an anthropologist want to team up with other scientists to make the biggest discovery in North America in decades.  It’s not from a lack of teams already capturing mountain lions and bears.  Very skilled people with experience capturing and tagging large dangerous animals.  Be so easy to use those people and their experience.  Even take advantage of already planned tagging events and just expand there scope a bit.

There reason Bigfoot hasn’t been captured isn’t from a lack of research teams that specialise and are proficient in tagging large and dangerous North American animals.  It’s because Bigfoot isn’t a flesh and bone creature like a bear or mountain lion.

[WallFlowerActive]

  
There's 55,000 Grizzlies in America, 

Which is good to maintain a breeding population.  How big of a population would be required to maintain a breeding population of flesh and bone Bigfeet in North America?  Again.  All of Africa, only about 25,000 lions.  Yet there are about 600 harvested every year.

Where teams of individuals in North America are trained and proficient in tracking and capturing large and dangerous animals like mountain lions and bears haven’t captured one Bigfoot in the history of hunting and science in North America?

[ArMaP]

The oldest account of Bigfoot was recorded in 986 ADThe oldest account of Bigfoot was recorded in 986 AD by Leif Ericson and his men.

Leif Erikson was born around 970, so I doubt he was doing any exploration with "his men" in 986, the year his father established the first fixed settlement in Greenland.

I agree that this is an interesting topic, but we shouldn't believe everything we see about it.

[Kurokage]

I’m not whining about anything.  Pointing out the obvious.

You placed authority on Dr Jeff Meldrum.  Who could have actually gone out to do field research and chose not to.  For something he believed in.  How many books did he write, but could not put out one trail camera.  Sit in a blind for an hour?  Put an expedition team together through the college?  Sounds like a graduate program to me.  

Why wouldn’t an anthropologist want to team up with other scientists to make the biggest discovery in North America in decades.  It’s not from a lack of teams already capturing mountain lions and bears.  Very skilled people with experience capturing and tagging large dangerous animals.  Be so easy to use those people and their experience.  Even take advantage of already planned tagging events and just expand there scope a bit.

There reason Bigfoot hasn’t been captured isn’t from a lack of research teams that specialise and are proficient in tagging large and dangerous North American animals.  It’s because Bigfoot isn’t a flesh and bone creature like a bear or mountain lion.

After posting 5 pages worth of whining I beg to differ.

And I can see you haven't watched or read anything I've posted and I've spoke about possible numbers for a population in multiple posts.

[Kurokage]

Leif Erikson was born around 970, so I doubt he was doing any exploration with "his men" in 986, the year his father established the first fixed settlement in Greenland.

I agree that this is an interesting topic, but we shouldn't believe everything we see about it.

The dates aren't correct and I didn't want to alter someone else's work, but the anecdote seems worth reading, until recently his voyages to the 'new world' were thought of as just a fairy tale till archaeologists found evidence. 

Maybe he did see something?? 

[WallFlowerActive]

After posting 5 pages worth of whining I beg to differ.

And I can see you haven't watched or read anything I've posted as I've spoke about possible numbers for a population in multiple posts.

Things easily faked, or things not in the least bit actual evidence.  You have unsubstantiated claims, hoaxes, and campfire stories.  Where people easily can be confused by bears.  Where all things provided by you are faith based because no actual flesh and bone Bigfoot has ever been produced for an examination.  The fisherman tale of “the one that got away” is not evidence.  So.  Bigfeet are myth or not flesh and bone like bears and mountain lions.

[Kurokage]

Things easily faked, or things not in the least bit actual evidence.  You have unsubstantiated claims, hoaxes, and campfire stories.  Where people easily can confused by bears.  Where all things provided by you are faith based because no actual flesh and bone Bigfoot has ever been produced for an examination.  The fisherman tale of “the one that got away” is not evidence.  So.  Bigfeet are myth or not flesh and bone like bears and mountain lions.

Then why are you here whining about it??  I didn't and haven't said I believed it all, but to just off hand claim its fake sounds very Trumpish considering you haven't watched a single thing I've posted, nor have you actually read any of the links I've supplied.

What's up my friend, have they removed the bridge you live under??