The Most Dangerous Person On Earth

[Karl12]

Very frustrating people imo.

It's like they don't have the ability to connect to anything and have given up trying.

Hollow and shallow in the soul department.

Tend to agree there Nerb and seems like a collossal waste to me - apparently Nietzsche's opinions are quite popular with hormonal teenagers but the majority grow out of it.

Would really recommend Stoicism though and reckon the world needs much more of it.

The main vid also covered blind conformity and thought this new advert was spot on lol.






Cheers.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

[Video: https://youtu.be/Sp-NH_QYSgY?si=v0VuBk1OCnCIgyA6]

I really like this video, especially because it focuses on two great philosophers, even if they help spread "miss the point entirely" nihilism.

I like that it really gets into why it helps to be antisocial to lead the social. Slave and master morality. 

Are a zombie seeking social validation through likes and like minds or ignoring that noise for your ear buds? 

... apart from the obvious codependent elephant in the forum.

Any other thoughts?

My thoughts: Its a cool video, and there is much freedom in disconnecting from social media, this forum is the extent of my social life that doesnt involve family and im happy with that. I dont need much. I think because my circle is intentionally small, I stress a lot less. I can't imagine being "antisocial" and living in a city. I dont feel I am antisocial though, because i can easily socialize. I work mostly by efficiency. 

I believe it is impossible to lead with leadership and be antisocial simultaneously. You can be both but not at the same time. I think moderation is key. Which actually reminds me of Marcus Aurelius in a way when he said, "You should only listen to people whose lives conform to nature." Thats why I'm a broccoli

[IgnorantGod]

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I believe it is impossible to lead with leadership and be antisocial simultaneously. You can be both but not at the same time. I think moderation is key. Which actually reminds me of Marcus Aurelius in a way when he said, "You should only listen to people whose lives conform to nature." Thats why I'm a broccoli

OR, you go all the Heraclitean way and starts insulting people until you get exile LOL!

The weeping philosopher, I'm a fan.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

OR, you go all the Heraclitean way and starts insulting people until you get exile LOL!

The weeping philosopher, I'm a fan.

Ya know, I am a HUGE fan of some Ralph Waldo Emerson and transcendentalism. 

Heraclitean and his fire can get rained on :p

I can see what he's saying though. Flux. It really is all connected. However, its still not in both states at the same time.

UNLESS: The two juxtaposed entities were a part of the same larger whole making the whole both states at the same time.

[Nerb]

Which actually reminds me of Marcus Aurelius in a way when he said, "You should only listen to people whose lives conform to nature." Thats why I'm a broccoli

Here here!

And that's why you are so good and healthy you sweet green thing.

[Nerb]

Ya know, I am a HUGE fan of some Ralph Waldo Emerson and transcendentalism. 

Heraclitean and his fire can get rained on :p

I can see what he's saying though. Flux. It really is all connected. However, its still not in both states at the same time.

Nothing really can be, but with a high frequency, opposites can live in the same moment for us slow thinking beings and then equals and opposites become apparent naturally as a single feeling but in one or the other direction to point at the direction of influence. Intuition.

[IgnorantGod]

Ya know, I am a HUGE fan of some Ralph Waldo Emerson and transcendentalism. 

Heraclitean and his fire can get rained on :p

I can see what he's saying though. Flux. It really is all connected. However, its still not in both states at the same time.

UNLESS: The two juxtaposed entities were a part of the same larger whole making the whole both states at the same time.

Lol, if anything, it'll probably be a rain of tears.

Yah, it always goes back to fractals, or so I think. As for "both states", I see it as a matter of context, something can be both states, depending on things like point of views, perception, feeling, etc.

[sahgwa]

We get into that old chicken vs egg thing because in a system like humanity on Earth, it's 'designed' or 'falls' in such a way that no matter what ,the ones 'leading' are generally there because they want the power.  The whole divine enlightened king thing is ideology, but the whole corrupt oligarch and emotional mob rule is reality, generally.  Even when we dress it up in pretty names like parliament or congress.  

That said, I find it fascinating to read the replies in the thread here, as it reminds me of the incessant need for most of humanity to not just 'name things' but to feel unique and special.
Just being who you are and living quietly with your own personal principles, seems to be very rare these days, as everyone wants to label themselves a 'skeptic ' 'scientist' 'stoic' 'loner' 'sigma' 'atheist' 'Christian' etc.

When my wife moved to the States  I saw through her eyes the strange , in my opinion infantile, shouting about identity over here, especially in bumper stickers.  Who gives a fuk if you are a 'dog mom' 'support biden' and 'fuck trump'?
I feel that it's very desperate and I think if people started thinking more about society as a reflection of themselves, rather than a stage to strut on, things would be more harmonious.

edit to add, even if people think they are entering government for altruistic reasons, a lot of the types we see around are busybody types that project 'social justice' but really just like to tell people what to do.

[putnam6]

Whoa there good buddy! 

Not seeking or needing someone else's attention and validation is not the same thing as antisocial. It means I don't feed other peoples' narcissism. Nor do I request that for myself.

Wasn't addressing all the hermits running around in the world, they aren't huddled in the huts trying to be leaders of the world of communities either.

Case in point, the average anti-social person is so on edge, they believe any post about anti-social behavior is a direct attack on them ... not a good look for a leader...

Simply letting antisocial people lead society sounds oxymoronic.. 

Kind of hard to count on an anti-social in a varied community. 

Anti-socials can't read the definition below without snorting.. 

 I know you snorted

Let's put it this way: AI thinks Joseph Stalin was likely the most successful anti-social leader, beating out Hitler, Pol Pot, and Mao. Not exactly good company


society /sə-sī′ĭ-tē/
noun

1. The totality of people regarded as forming a community of interdependent individuals.
   "working for the benefit of society."
   
2. A group of people broadly distinguished from other groups by mutual interests, participation in characteristic relationships, shared institutions, and a common culture.
   "rural society; literary society."
   
3. An organization or association of persons engaged in a common profession, activity, or interest.
   "a folklore society; a society of bird watchers."
   

[sahgwa]

Kind of hard to count on an anti-social in a varied community. 

If I ruminate a bit more we have some stereotypes we can digest or displace a bit too.
There's a stereotype that I am sure a lot of younger guys always have,  that's the lone wolf oh the so tough on his own society better watch out he doesn't need anyone-  like the video maybe tries to portray. 
Everyone relies on someone at the end of the day, no matter what , even if it's said loner relying on Wei Wang who made the tactical boots he is wearing in a factory overseas. 
No man is an island, that's silly.

Another one that is a good stereotype is the hermit/philosopher mage, spiritually enlightened,  alone in the wilderness.
This one comes to mind because a lot of people also think of it as a snapshot in perpetuity.
The thing to think about with this one is that this hermit stage is temporary.  It occurs after one has already proven to themselves and those around them that they can function in society and benefit themselves and others in a normal 'householder' status.  It's not escapism, it's a slow evolution to perfecting ones actions.
First comes the physical focus then comes the mental then the spiritual. 

One can also be a hermit at the end of their mundane day, balancing the making money or toiling and then focussing on the inner self, afterwards.

No one is going to be pure hermit all the time or in their whole life. 


Just some thoughts.