The Most Dangerous Person On Earth

[putnam6]

That all comes back to my initial post about how the world 'is structured'

In an awkward metaphor, in the hour glass of life, the sands of the 'independents' or 'loners' will flow down mostly unnoticed while the larger chunks of the egotists and power-hungry or busybodies will stay floating near the top as they are too large to fit through the hole.   True independents don't want to have the illusion of leading, or telling people what to do.  They want to do their best to lead themselves, and hopefully that vibrates to the other sands around them so then they can flow smoother to the next part of life.

through my bowl of hemp/faux weed, all I heard was "like the sands through an hourglass, so are the days of our lives

[AlroyFarms]

Still been thinking a little about this while admittedly only skimming the thread. I'm sorry I am not well-versed in every philosophical approach--I'm out there in the field doing and being, not in the study halls debating.

Having said that, at what point does the so-called anti-social hermit have a responsibility to WANT to engage in society? We've all seen society and many of us are less than thrilled. 

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society

I mean let's be real, how many people do we really trust and connect with and how many do we try to duck away from because we recoil at any slight deviance to our own little narcissistic bubbles? I see a clown show almost every single day in terms of what's going on and how people treat each other. Let's just pick one illustration I think most of us have seen more than once: raging over the fast food counter because someone forgot extra ketchup in the bag. Sometimes these innocuous transactions turn to violence.

I didn't even have to make up a hypothetical. Even tonight I saw 2 little kids getting antsy waiting in line at a convenience store started tagging each other with tiny playful shoves. Some piece of shit barreled in and walked right through them saying "Get the f*** out of my way!" while essentially pushing them aside. One kid at least said sorry, demonstrating he was the more adult of the two.

Who does that though? A sick person. They're everywhere and they express it and hide it selectively enough, but that sickness is still incubating inside. If we're going to have a society, these sick people have a responsibility to fix themselves first instead of going out to throw stones. Then maybe we'll see more participation overall. 

Despite my views on the temperature of society and how we treat each other, I still go out everyday with a smile and a kind word to say. 

Be the King/Queen of Spades and the King/Queen of Hearts concurrently. Go out with command over mind and empathy. But remember that society has a self-determination too. If they wanna burn themselves down you can count me out, I won't miss 'em. But at least I've got s'mores for the afterparty and rebuilding phase. 

I've been a hermit. Now I am a hermit trying to lead by example. I'll be here after the fire.

[UltraBudgie]

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I really like this video, especially because it focuses on two great philosophers, even if they help spread "miss the point entirely" nihilism.

I like that it really gets into why it helps to be antisocial to lead the social. Slave and master morality. 

Are you a zombie seeking social validation through likes and like minds or more ignoring that noise for your ear buds? 

... apart from the obvious codependent elephant in the forum.

Any other thoughts?

what is "the obvious codependent elephant in the forum"?

[Sirius]

Wasn't addressing all the hermits running around in the world, they aren't huddled in the huts trying to be leaders of the world of communities either.

Case in point, the average anti-social person is so on edge, they believe any post about anti-social behavior is a direct attack on them ... not a good look for a leader...

Simply letting antisocial people lead society sounds oxymoronic.. 

Kind of hard to count on an anti-social in a varied community. 

Anti-socials can't read the definition below without snorting.. 

 I know you snorted

Let's put it this way: AI thinks Joseph Stalin was likely the most successful anti-social leader, beating out Hitler, Pol Pot, and Mao. Not exactly good company


society /sə-sī′ĭ-tē/
noun

1. The totality of people regarded as forming a community of interdependent individuals.
   "working for the benefit of society."
   
2. A group of people broadly distinguished from other groups by mutual interests, participation in characteristic relationships, shared institutions, and a common culture.
   "rural society; literary society."
   
3. An organization or association of persons engaged in a common profession, activity, or interest.
   "a folklore society; a society of bird watchers."
   

you should go back to your first post

"Emotions and arrogance, that's usually a grade A turnoff to the best humanity"



As you demonstrated you can't switch off emotions, but you can learn about them. You say little to promote the other side, in fact absolutely nothing in the quoted post

 I know you snorted

[putnam6]

you should go back to your first post

"Emotions and arrogance, that's usually a grade A turnoff to the best humanity"

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As you demonstrated you can't switch off emotions, but you can learn about them. You say little to promote the other side, in fact absolutely nothing in the quoted post

 I know you snorted

Why should I say anything to promote the other side?

Im not following

But Im extremely flattered you are reading and remembering my posts

[quintessentone]

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I really like this video, especially because it focuses on two great philosophers, even if they help spread "miss the point entirely" nihilism.

I like that it really gets into why it helps to be antisocial to lead the social. Slave and master morality. 

Are you a zombie seeking social validation through likes and like minds or more ignoring that noise for your ear buds? 

... apart from the obvious codependent elephant in the forum.

Any other thoughts?

Eat it up then spit it out. Rinse and repeat. lol

[Maxmars]

Still been thinking a little about this while admittedly only skimming the thread. I'm sorry I am not well-versed in every philosophical approach--I'm out there in the field doing and being, not in the study halls debating.

...

Your understanding of what some find "classic" or "commonly understood" concepts (that have names new to your vocabulary,) is no impediment to making a good point.  Your post is proof.

In nearly anyone's perspective, I could be the living embodiment of someone who "has no standing" to make the comments  I do.

Don't care... welcome to social media.

Generally speaking, without your voice this conversation is diminished.
(Don't make me regret saying that!  )

It is not hyperbole to say that we need everyone's voice... wherever they can spare it....

(At least we'll stop feeding LLMs with garbage... and actually speak to one another,, instead of an audience.)

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

what is "the obvious codependent elephant in the forum"?

That almost everyone on a forum who says they're above needing validation is lying. 

I have only met a handful (of non trolls) that claim to be free thinkers that break any particular mold with their thoughts.  My own lack of original thoughts included. And even the trolls want "anti-validation."

The title being an irony (uninteded in the video), because almost every person that deems themselves outside the box online is still usually trapped somewhere in it. 

And almost every person is the most dangerous free thinker on earth.

[UltraBudgie]

That almost everyone on a forum who says they're above needing validation is lying. 

I have only met a handful (of non trolls) that claim to be free thinkers that break any particular mold with their thoughts.  My own lack of original thoughts included. And even the trolls want "anti-validation."

The title being an Irony (uninteded in the video), because almost every person that deems themselves outside the box online is still usually trapped somewhere in it. 

And almost every person is the most dangerous free thinker on earth.

ah thank you!
i was thinking of rambling about selection bias
of posting for opinions on such a thing here
but i didn't want to be off base
wait i mean i don't care myself but i thought others might be confused

[chivo]

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"  J. Krishnamurti


​​​​​​"The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does. They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted." Aldous Huxley, Brave New World