The Great Flood — Myth, Memory, or Something In Between?

[MonkMode]

Some interesting math here

There isn't enough water on/in Earth to cover the highest mountains like the bible claims happened for Noahs flood.   So where did the water for the flood come from?  And where did it go?   Answer ... it never happened so it came from nowhere and went nowhere.  

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There is not enough water on Earth to account for a global flood like Noah's, even with rain and underground water, because the total volume of water is insufficient to cover the highest mountains. If all the water in the atmosphere rained down, it would only cover the ground to a depth of about 2.5 centimeters (1 inch), and even adding the water from the oceans would only raise global sea levels by about 70 meters, which is not enough to submerge the highest peaks.

There is a hint because it said the waters prevailed 15 cubits upward, and covered all the mountains .  But 15 cubits isn’t enough to cover the mountains.

It sounds like the earth got so electrified, the life destroyed levitated 15 cubits high.

[chr0naut]

But they didn't ... at any time.   
No one was speaking Sumerian and no one was worshipping Yahweh.  
The cultures around the world continued on uninterrupted.

20 minutes.   Straight up facts.   Give it a try ... 
Archeology Disproves the Flood

Lets take Egypt for example.   Supposedly a few of Noahs grandchildren moved there.   They would have been speaking Sumerian and worshipping the God that saved them ... Yahweh.   But suddenly upon arrival in Egypt they ditched the God that saved them and ditched their native language and suddenly took up the Egyptian gods and the Egyptian language ...     Seriously?   That's absurd.

After the flood, people were supposedly concentrated into a large city called Babel, from which there was a diaspora of peoples that became separate nations and languages after the tower of Babel.

The Table of Nations in Genesis 10.

The Genesis 10 Table of Nations and Y-Chromosomal DNA

[schuyler]

So the creatures of the sea survived then and those that were on boats? 

Whatever I find it interesting that different cultures from all over the world, with no apparent contact or prior influence on each other, all have flood myths in their oldest tales. 

If a meteor or comet plus fragments hit the northern ice sheet near the end of the last ice age, it could be responsible for the younger dryas event that was another mini ice age, it would have also created a massive global flood. A catastrophe of biblical proportions indeed.

And this is BY FAR the most reasonable explanation of what actually happened. You don't need God. You don't need Jesus. You don't need ANY supernatural explanation to explain the flood stories. That people continue to insist on these fanciful ark stories is just laughable. Quote the Bible all you want, but you really can't be taken seriously.

[FlyersFan]

After the flood, people were supposedly concentrated into a large city called Babel, from which there was a diaspora of peoples that became separate nations and languages after the tower of Babel.

Another creation myth story ... people made up a story to try to explain the different languages around the world but we know how language developed, and the languages didn't all get started 4000 years ago at the tower of Babel.   We have written evidence of different languages around the world before that time and they continue after that time.

[FlyersFan]

- The text of Genesis does not say that Noah's flood was planet-wide.

- The text of Genesis does not say that they were to collect every species that existed on the planet. 

Yes it does say that the flood covered the earth above the highest mountains and that ALL flesh died.    And the text says it collected 'all kinds' of animals which doesn't work because it would have to have been 'all species' in order to have the animal diversity we have today.   I posted 7 youtube videos a couple of pages back.  Each about 20 minutes long.   I suggest you watch them and educate yourself.

Start with this one - Archeology disproves Noahs Flood

Geology disproves Noahs Flood

Paleontology disproves Noahs Flood

Dendrochronology disproves Noahs Flood

Meteorology disproves Noahs Flood

Anthropology disproves Noahs Flood

Mythology disproves Noahs Flood

[Creaky]

Scientific and historical fact isn't 'my opinion' .... it's just the truth.
The Noahs Ark story did not really happen.   Deal with it.
Oh .. and you failed to address the massive numbers of facts presented.
It's a PAGAN story reworked and adapted by the Hebrews to fit t heir own religion.


Arizona EDU

i don’t  care your opinion, you are flat out wrong as usual

[SurferSoul]

The only old myths that can be reliably considered older than Christian contact are those which have been recorded in writing before missionary contact. Other than that, cross cultural interchange of ideas changes things. Many examples of Mandela effect can be attributed to such, like someone hears "Hey, didn't that used to be ...?" And then the hearer's memory gets corrupted.

But speaking of oral tradition, I've thought back to what I heard as a child.

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An Oral Tradition of the Flood

This is the oral tradition that I overheard my mother teaching to my oldest sister. It was assumed that I was asleep and couldn't have heard it from my bedroom. But I heard nonetheless.

I don’t agree that things have to be written prior to Christian contact to be verified as older than Christian contact. These people were around before Christianity, therefore their their language and creation stories, myths and legends are older. Faithfully retold and passed down by their own initiates be they Druids/Bards, shaman or whatever. Take the Vedic hymns, they weren’t written down for centuries and they are way older than Christianity. In fact longer tales are better memorialised as hymns or songs. Consider the althbet a collection of letters given a slight melody to aid memory. That way letters don’t get jumbled up or forgotten entirely when recalled. 

Your written description of your mother’s incorrect re-telling of the genesis story just proves written accounts are also corrupted if the oral accounts are also falsified. 

Think of it like remembering a joke, it’s very important you remember it correctly, the order of events and the language used, otherwise the punchline won’t make sense and it won’t be funny.
If something is considered important enough it easily committed to memory.

[FlyersFan]

i don’t  care your opinion, you are flat out wrong as usual

  I'm correct as usual.
I post facts, not just my opinion.
You fail to address the facts as usual.


Start with this one - Archeology disproves Noahs Flood

Geology disproves Noahs Flood

Paleontology disproves Noahs Flood

Dendrochronology disproves Noahs Flood

Meteorology disproves Noahs Flood

Anthropology disproves Noahs Flood

Mythology disproves Noahs Flood

[andy06shake]

Watch PBS Nova "The First Horse Warriors" and fast forward to 36 minutes and 12 seconds, although the part about people self-quarantining on ships is admittedly conjecture.
Which is consistent with a pandemic.  Many cultures must have been involved.
The people who created the stories could have had their reasons for rewriting the record.  One wild guess I just thought of off the cuff: perhaps they didn't want the newcomers to realize they were outsiders.  Perhaps there would have been ethnic persecution.
People have survived months at sea on small rafts with just the fish they could catch.  The record was written down so long after the events in question that they may have forgotten minor details like going to shore for fresh water if they didn't see anyone around. 
If they were avoiding a plague, they need not have brought any predators, only the animals they were accustomed to growing on their farms.  They could have gone to shore from time to time when there were no people around and gathered hay for the animals. 

It's mainly all conjecture Solvedit.

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

But it is a cool take and twist on the story.

[Creaky]

  I'm correct as usual.
I post facts, not just my opinion.
You fail to address the facts as usual.
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Start with this one - Archeology disproves Noahs Flood

Geology disproves Noahs Flood

Paleontology disproves Noahs Flood

Dendrochronology disproves Noahs Flood

Meteorology disproves Noahs Flood

Anthropology disproves Noahs Flood

Mythology disproves Noahs Flood

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