'The Future Of Food'.

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Have follow RKjr on the corruption of the US food system for a long while now. The Tobacco companies got in there an have free reign. Hopefully now this will change.

Bugs...my brain fully accepts they are a legit protein source. My mouth doesn't. 
Have watched enough travel shows Andrew Zimmer & (rip) Anthony Bourdain to know all manner of bugs are just fine & even tasty just here in the US we're squeamish. 

Same with algae except for reading too much sci-fy & having soylent green issues. 
However it provides valuable nutrients to indiginous peoples so I need to get over it. It is in places traditional food. 

Did want to say in my own travels down south in the US there are MANY grocery stores who only sell pork in the fresh meat dept's. Then we wonder why people are so unhealthy. Up north here at home if anyone had told me this I'd of called them a liar. Everything in these video's is awful but I think we need to factor in locations where there are stocked stores but absolutely NO
choice. A steady diet of factory mass produced pork has to be just as bad as living on Micky D's & Waffle House. 
Just thought this was a fact never talked about.

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If you have friends, family or loved ones that eat food then you should probably give this new Corbett Report a watch.








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Also here's what the Rockefellers have got planned for everyone when it comes to the future of food distribution.


Rockefeller's "Reset the Table:" Food Tyranny & Transform Food Supply

I can't watch that right now, but I thought I would post something which is probably stupid common sense to everyone else but me, but I learnt this week or so that with the produce numbers globally, you know the 4 and 5 digit ones on the fruit and veg, the ones beginning with 3 and 4 are 'standard grown' and the ones starting in 8 are GMO but through some loophole or definitive nitpicking, 'they' are allowed to sell GMO produce under the 3 and 4 standard code...the only way to make sure you get non GMO is to only buy the codes starting in 9.

[sahgwa]

Have follow RKjr on the corruption of the US food system for a long while now. The Tobacco companies got in there an have free reign. Hopefully now this will change.

Bugs...my brain fully accepts they are a legit protein source. My mouth doesn't. 
Have watched enough travel shows Andrew Zimmer & (rip) Anthony Bourdain to know all manner of bugs are just fine & even tasty just here in the US we're squeamish. 

Same with algae except for reading too much sci-fy & having soylent green issues. 
However it provides valuable nutrients to indiginous peoples so I need to get over it. It is in places traditional food. 

Did want to say in my own travels down south in the US there are MANY grocery stores who only sell pork in the fresh meat dept's. Then we wonder why people are so unhealthy. Up north here at home if anyone had told me this I'd of called them a liar. Everything in these video's is awful but I think we need to factor in locations where there are stocked stores but absolutely NO
choice. A steady diet of factory mass produced pork has to be just as bad as living on Micky D's & Waffle House. 
Just thought this was a fact never talked about.

Pork is fine if it's low fat, and especially tasty if it's heritage breed pork like Duroc.  No one is making those people eat the fatty bits. 
Git you some of those bone in duroc pork chops . they are superb.

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Pork is fine if it's low fat, and especially tasty if it's heritage breed pork like Duroc.  No one is making those people eat the fatty bits. 
Git you some of those bone in duroc pork chops . they are superb.

Thank you!
My shock was the communities had no choice & knowing how the large commercial pork farms are forced to run, pork raised that way fatty bits OR the leaner cuts are going to be inherently detrimental. 

Remember this was in the US southeast. 
Home of some of the largest most awful pig farms. No judgements on the farmers forced to operate this way, no mistake they ARE financially forced to operate this way or go bankrupt. 

Have heard a bit about the specialty & heritage breeds of pigs. 
Some are shockingly beautiful breeds!
 

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Thank you!
My shock was the communities had no choice & knowing how the large commercial pork farms are forced to run, pork raised that way fatty bits OR the leaner cuts are going to be inherently detrimental. 

Remember this was in the US southeast. 
Home of some of the largest most awful pig farms. No judgements on the farmers forced to operate this way, no mistake they ARE financially forced to operate this way or go bankrupt. 

Have heard a bit about the specialty & heritage breeds of pigs. 
Some are shockingly beautiful breeds!
 

You mean shockingly tasty :D
I am not a veggie but I sometimes feel bad about meeting my food because yeah I respect the creature and they are doing me a service but pigs are so smart.
Same thing with octopuses, they are hyper intelligent and they happen to be tasty too. Conundrums. Circle of life. 
We just need to be focussed on natural ways of raising the animals, free range, pastured, whatever, if we are going to eat them they should live their natural 'style' and be respected. in my opinion.

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Absolutely!
I am a happy meat eater. Just not thrilled with eating anything that spent it's life standing or living in it's own waste. That goes for poultry, fish, beef ect. Veggies are also having their own issues with being nutritionally deficit due to the inability to uptake what they need due to the last 40yrs of forced bad farming practices. I keep using the word "forced" because farmers who don't want to lose their farms haven't had in many cases viable alternatives.

Never thought in a million years with the abundance of food we currently enjoy that's available we'd STILL be stuck in the paradigm of ancient prehistory "the struggle to hunt down enough food to live". Some are going to laugh however, despite the ease of grocery shopping hunting down and acquiring nutrition is still a massive struggle. 

Spearing a mastodon vs financially-logistically getting enough (at least minimally) nutritionally varieties of food to stick in your mouth. While the hunting skills have changed they are still substantial. Just more mental than physical. 

Ancient humans not only had to bag that beast, they had to butcher it & get it home as predators gathered to snatch it away from them. 

I have to figure out how many carrots I have to eat to get the same nutrition a cup of raw carrots provided 40yrs ago. One bag? Two? Plus can I pay for them? 
Same with every other veggie & fruit. Then figure out my own biology & learn which forms of what are more nutritionally bioavailable in my closed little system. 

Sounds a bit like making my own problems or diving too micro into just eating but if you have a physically demanding job eating things that don't serve you becomes a immediate liability by 1pm daily. People with less physically demanding jobs have the same problem it's just not as blatantly & starkly apparent, it creeps up tho. 

It cracks me up the "struggle" has only changed, but not vanished. 
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Absolutely!
I am a happy meat eater. Just not thrilled with eating anything that spent it's life standing or living in it's own waste. That goes for poultry, fish, beef ect. Veggies are also having their own issues with being nutritionally deficit due to the inability to uptake what they need due to the last 40yrs of forced bad farming practices. I keep using the word "forced" because farmers who don't want to lose their farms haven't had in many cases viable alternatives.

Never thought in a million years with the abundance of food we currently enjoy that's available we'd STILL be stuck in the paradigm of ancient prehistory "the struggle to hunt down enough food to live". Some are going to laugh however, despite the ease of grocery shopping hunting down and acquiring nutrition is still a massive struggle. 

Spearing a mastodon vs financially-logistically getting enough (at least minimally) nutritionally varieties of food to stick in your mouth. While the hunting skills have changed they are still substantial. Just more mental than physical. 

Ancient humans not only had to bag that beast, they had to butcher it & get it home as predators gathered to snatch it away from them. 

I have to figure out how many carrots I have to eat to get the same nutrition a cup of raw carrots provided 40yrs ago. One bag? Two? Plus can I pay for them? 
Same with every other veggie & fruit. Then figure out my own biology & learn which forms of what are more nutritionally bioavailable in my closed little system. 

Sounds a bit like making my own problems or diving too micro into just eating but if you have a physically demanding job eating things that don't serve you becomes a immediate liability by 1pm daily. People with less physically demanding jobs have the same problem it's just not as blatantly & starkly apparent, it creeps up tho. 

It cracks me up the "struggle" has only changed, but not vanished. 
 

That's a very good point.  I hadn't thought of framing the 'hunting struggle' in that way, but it makes sense, however funny.
We always read the labels like mofos; no corn syrup, no MSG, check the saturated fat and salt and sugar content....
Sad but true but that is our new hunting, to make sure it's not crap.  
Garbage in, garbage out.
I feel you always do a lot of good making sure you have a nice side salad with every dinner.

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Salads have gotten more difficult to "hunt". 
The Lithium fire at Moss Landing just hosed contaminents all over prime crops in California, the EPA & others aren't even testing correctly. The East Palistine train derailment contaminents spread over most of the east coast, but crops in that vast area weren't tested.
(anyone buy sweet corn at a roadside stand? omg)

This doesn't even consider the "normal to us" e-coli crop recalls.
Chinese garlic contaminated with heavy metals.
Plastic rice imports.

It's been a wild ride, you'd think a nice salad wouldn't be this difficult!! 
 "hunter-gathering" 21st century style has morphed into a Olympic Event.

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Salads have gotten more difficult to "hunt". 
The Lithium fire at Moss Landing just hosed contaminents all over prime crops in California, the EPA & others aren't even testing correctly. The East Palistine train derailment contaminents spread over most of the east coast, but crops in that vast area weren't tested.
(anyone buy sweet corn at a roadside stand? omg)

This doesn't even consider the "normal to us" e-coli crop recalls.
Chinese garlic contaminated with heavy metals.
Plastic rice imports.

It's been a wild ride, you'd think a nice salad wouldn't be this difficult!! 
 "hunter-gathering" 21st century style has morphed into a Olympic Event.

Almost all the lettuce we buy lately seems to have been grown in 'urban farms' , which brings this thread around full circle.  Rooftop greenhouses/indoor greenhouses.
It's largely local and it's very tasty:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotham_Greens

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Don't have Urban Gardens here yet. Go to the supposed "family farm markets" & they're selling the same produce as the stores, in the same boxes.
Hahahahahahaha!!!

Just added issues as I see them all over the place. 
In reality I grab stuff where ever I see it in decent shape & cheapest. Have talked to a few store produce managers about quality. Things are tough but when you see a Napa Cabbage that has obviously been trimmed 3-4-5 times? We're going to have a chat about why anyone thinks I'm going to pay top dollar for it. 

I'm not even a "spud" about it. Just can I get 1/3rd off? 
Figure that's fair. They gotta make some money too. You'd be pleasantly surprised how often the Mgr's say yes! The cabbage to be trimmed that many times has already been in the store for about a month. It already was traveling a week or more to get there.
I have to keep it edible for 2 weeks. (it will last if you slap it in a 2 gallon zippy bag with a paper towel!) 

Have been scared to go down to the cities produce district cause I'm not ready to find out everything showing up is crappy quality from the suppliers.
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