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The DoD needs 5 different aircrafts to do what one plane could do
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The DoD needs 5 different aircraft to do what one plane could do, what are your thoughts on this Zaphod?

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The Pentagon has a $13 billion problem: They need 5 different aircrafts to do what one plane could do. The startup landscape is about to change everything with a single aircraft. Here's why the military just bet $300M recently on the impossible promise:

I've analyzed numerous aerospace innovations. Archer's technical approach demonstrates an element of elegance. Their hybrid VTOL architecture represents a fundamental advancement in military aviation systems. The technical implications warrant careful analysis...

The current military aircraft ecosystem exhibits significant inefficiencies. Stealth reconnaissance requires specialized platforms. Logistics operations depend on dedicated transport systems. Combat scenarios demand purpose-built fighters. This fragmentation is unsustainable.

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#2
I'm not the aviation guru, but I have answer. Actually a dead president said it more than two decades before I was born. Pretty famous.

Why have one contract when there can be five? Why lobby for one when more military personnel can be wined and dined with five. Maybe it's more in "Nash Equilibrium" if everyone gets a contract?



But I'll really believe Trump is serious about fixing ALL the overspending if he can stop the unnecessary contracts from making the four unnecessary vehicles, or budgeting 9 dollars a screw for the things that dont exist. I mean, because so far he's only put the Military Industrial Complex in charge of cutting unnecessary government spending. Will Elon give us all transpareny on why the Mr. Coffee maker in the break room costs $1,200?
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Oh yes, his genius idea is to replace everything with one platform that's not proven, doesn't have anywhere near the range of a conventionally powered aircraft, doesn't have anywhere near the payload of even a helicopter, or the sensors of a single aircraft. Yeah, that's a great freaking plan.  The AFWERX plan isn't to replace a group of aircraft with one, it's to develop new technologies for vertical lift, that are potentially cheaper than existing programs, or more efficient than existing programs.
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(02-13-2025, 05:56 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: I'm not the aviation guru, but I have answer. Actually a dead president said it more than two decades before I was born. Pretty famous.

Why have one contract when there can be five? Why lobby for one when more military personnel can be wined and dined with five. Maybe it's more in "Nash Equilibrium" if everyone gets a contract?

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But I'll really believe Trump is serious about fixing ALL the overspending if he can stop the unnecessary contracts from making the four unnecessary vehicles, or budgeting 9 dollars a screw for the things that dont exist. I mean, because so far he's only put the Military Industrial Complex in charge of cutting unnecessary government spending. Will Elon give us all transpareny on why the Mr. Coffee maker in the break room costs $1,200?

Yes Ma'am you can't be on a conspiracy message board without appreciating the wit, wisdom, knowledge, and leadership of Dwight D Eisenhower I refer to him from time to time here and ATS and elsewhere. He was likely our last uncompromised President 

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My sincere hope is somewhere the TPTB and Elon's Nerds in Paradise are using an AI version of Eisenhower for guidance on all issues with the DoD

Well, either that or AI Eisenhower with Hegseth, Zaphod, and your line-item veto...


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Rumors are that DNC experts once tried to create and confer with an AI version of Abraham Lincoln at the beginning of Biden's Presidency.

After downloading Biden's legislative ideas into AI Abe its computer terminal froze went to a blue screen and rebooted.
 
Upon restart of AI Lincoln, he insisted his terminal be moved to Ford's Theather Presidential box for a viewing of "Our American Cousin" guest starring AI John Wilkes Booth

Undeterred the DNC tech decides they need a more recent "AI" President choosing this time inputting the essence of JFK.

Upon gaining sentience AI Jack conjured up an AI Marilyn Monroe and spent the night with her all the while pissing off the CIA
and the next morning insisted on a slow convertible limo ride through Dealey Plaza stopping in front of the grassy knoll.

Next in desperation, they tried an AI Bill Clinton but it had an admin folder titled See Hillary
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#5
What's he gonna do?

Musk is launching 50 different DOD Military Industrial projects by the midterms. I think the next one scheduled is Northrop Gruman (I actually don't know, but it sounds right in my head).

This is one of few things that is "business as usual," I suppose behind the protests and my liberal purge fears, the rest is business as usual too, but military defense spending is not getting the fine tooth comb. Or even getting brushed.

And I don't think he's going to stop The NATO 2% of GDP Military Industrial gravy train either. What happened to the last president that listened to Dwight D and tried to curtail the war complex?

I don't think der führer has that much providence.
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(02-13-2025, 09:26 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: This is one of few things that is "business as usual," I suppose behind the protests and my liberal purge fears, the rest is business as usual too, but military defense spending is not getting the fine tooth comb. Or even getting brushed.

And I don't think he's going to stop The NATO 2% of GDP Military Industrial gravy train either. 

Yes it is. They've already started working with the Pentagon on spending. They ended computer based training today, and ordered all training to be in person training. It's not going to be something that's going to be done in the first 30 days, but it's being done. 

The NATO 2% is part of the treaty, and becoming a signatory of the organization.
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Jeez this guy does too much axing, it's hard to keep up with.

That's more of his anti-work from home thing. The most wasteful employees are socially distanced.

What I mean is I don't see the 830 billion or however much defense gets drying up. I don't see the NATO-related shopping sprees at the Lockheed superstore going anywhere.

And I don't see the hidden "black budget" being touched. I've read it's hidden on The DoE ledger and/or just hidden by $1,200 coffee makers.

Sure he can get the wasteful remote training sessions cut, force training to be done in person, but how much more or less is it to train 100 people with a computer program vs. ln person training? That's an eyelash comb at most. A cosmetic non-thing to give the appearance of shaking things up.

I bring up NATO because our defense contractors have deals with everyone from Japan to Saudi Arabia and all the Europe allies in between.

I see him keeping NATO countries treaty compliant and spending money at our contractors before I see him pulling us. Or I hope anyway. Really hope.
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(02-13-2025, 10:37 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Jeez this guy does too much axing, it's hard to keep up with.

That's more of his anti-work from home thing. The most wasteful employees are socially distanced.

What I mean is I don't see the 830 billion or however much defense gets drying up. I don't see the NATO-related shopping sprees at the Lockheed superstore going anywhere.

And I don't see the hidden "black budget" being touched. I've read it's hidden on The DoE ledger and/or just hidden by $1,200 coffee makers.

Sure he can get the wasteful remote training sessions cut, force training to be done in person, but how much more or less is it to train 100 people with a computer program vs. ln person training? That's an eyelash comb at most. A cosmetic non-thing to give the appearance of shaking things up.

I bring up NATO because our defense contractors have deals with everyone from Japan to Saudi Arabia and all the Europe allies in between.

I see him keeping NATO countries treaty compliant and spending money at our contractors before I see him pulling us. Or I hope anyway. Really hope.

The Classified Budget isn't hidden. It's public record. Specifics of what it's going towards is kept quiet, but the amounts and fields it's going it aren't. 

NATO doesn't come from the US budget, it comes from NATO countries, so why on earth would it dry up because of Musk and his cuts? They're actually trying to cut red tape from FMS operations to make it easier for friendly countries to buy from us. 

You're focusing on one tiny thing so far, when they've been working with the Pentagon for something like three days. This isn't something that is going to see big changes happen immediately. It's going to be months before they even start looking at some of this spending. You can't audit or make changes to a budget that size in a matter of days. You start with the small things and go from there, which is what they're doing.
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I speak generally.

The "aura" around Trump's administration is one of token moves to make a show of cost-cutting. But let's call it "the global military economy" of domestic contracts and foreign contracts both public record and hidden, I see staying "status quo." He's not cutting the DoD budget, but will end remote work and woke things. I don't see him ratting the cage of what's not broken or makes lobbied for corporations money.

Someone is buying the American arms donated to Kyiv. We are. And Lockheed Martin still gets paid for its HIMARS (looked that up). 1.9 billion from the US Army to replenish Ukraine.

That ALL matters a hell of a lot more than people's feels and his talks with Putin and Zelensky.

Who will win his ear? The elements telling him Ukraine is a waste of funds, or the Lockheed exec telling him HIMARS to anywhere is good business? And which one is more in his school of dealings?

Do him Mr. Musk have the ability the change the overall status quo? The status quo of military industrial lore. The one with military brass being treated to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch the night before they hear the presentation at the contractor's facility near Nellis for the new secret ion cannon or whatever.
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(02-13-2025, 11:40 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: I speak generally.

The "aura" around Trump's administration is one of token moves to make a show of cost-cutting. But let's call it "the global military economy" of domestic contracts and foreign contracts both public record and hidden, I see staying "status quo." He's not cutting the DoD budget, but will end remote work and woke things. I don't see him ratting the cage of what's not broken or makes lobbied for corporations money.

Someone is buying the American arms donated to Kyiv. We are. And Lockheed Martin still gets paid for its HIMARS (looked that up). 1.9 billion from the US Army to replenish Ukraine.

That ALL matters a hell of a lot more than people's feels and his talks with Putin and Zelensky.

Who will win his ear? The elements telling him Ukraine is a waste of funds, or the Lockheed exec telling him HIMARS to anywhere is good business? And which one is more in his school of dealings?

Do him Mr. Musk have the ability the change the overall status quo? The status quo of military industrial lore. The one with military brass being treated to the Moonlight Bunny Ranch the night before they hear the presentation at the contractor's facility near Nellis for the new secret ion cannon or whatever.

Weapons, especially explosives, have a finite shelf life. We can either pay to dispose of them, and replace them, or we can send them to Ukraine, and only pay to move them and replace them. It would cost millions more to scrap and replace than to send them to Ukraine.

No, they aren’t going to gut the budget. There are too many threats, and we have too many needs right now to play that game. But they can streamline things and make them more efficient, and cut out the bloat, like all the DEI BS that’s been going on for years, and the millions spent to rename bases because they hurt someone’s feelings.
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