The 13 biggest SCIENCE LIES you've been told all of your life.

[rickymouse]

The UN logo uses an "azimuthal equidistant projection" which is a standard globe projection, but you are aware of that.

I take issue with number 5 simply because early detection usually means the cancer is smaller, or hasn't spread.

Hence, it can be treated more effectively.

And Turmeric certainly doesn't cure cancer.

It might help reduce inflammation or ease side effects of other treatments.

But it should never replace chemotherapy, radiation(taking a sledgehammer to a peanut), or surgery.

I've studied the chemotherapy meds pretty extensively, and found the method of action of the majority of them.  I cross referenced them to the chemistry in foods and herbs and looked for the chemistry in common foods which takes diving into the different classes of foods in the classes in the type of food class they are in and other branches of the food,  Like Genus, order, family, Glade and stuff like that.

Then I checked the bioavailability and heat stable qualities and other chemicals formed by cooking and checked if those chemistries had anti-microbial, antiviral, or anticancer properties too.  Yes, foods can be made to increase the anti-cancer properties, or they can be grown to increase those properties using certain agricultural processes.  I can go into detail on lots of these methods of increasing the anti-cancer properties of foods and what part of the plant actually contains the anti-cancer properties.

I got interested in this because I treat my epilepsy with diet, and a lot of the chemistries and preparation recipies I developed for epilepsy also increase anti-cancer and anti-viral properties and somewhat increase some antimicrobial properties but sometimes the antimicrobial properties decline by my preperation of my medicinal soups and foods.  The anti-cancer properties I discovered from reading scientific research in the fields of medicine, not by reading propaganda from Pharma companies or the medical industry.  I cannot take the anti-epileptic meds because I lack enzymes to detox them because of genetics....Yes, I did my genes and spent a couple of years every day loading that info in genetic apps to figure out why I have some health differences than others.....and why I cannot take many medicines.  Now they are publishing those genetic traits as related to side effects of medicines on some gene sites....I did that before they even started that, and all of the medicines I am intolerant to showed up on the two genetic sites I have accounts with now.  Clearly showing side effects of the meds for me.

The reason I had so much problems with the anti-epileptic meds is because I do not break them down, instead my liver tossed them into fat cells to keep me from dying.  I gained over fifty pounds of fat and lost muscle while on those meds, I could not even get off the couch without rolling on the floor and pushing myself up when on one med that blocked sodium channels to control the epilepsy.  I lack an anti-diuretic hormone, I pee out all my salt...yet I do not blame the neurologist, back then they had no way of knowing I had this problem.  

Now, I am not going into specifics about all of these anticancer chemistries that are the basis of many chemo drugs, they cannot patent chicken soup, nor can they patent food chemistry that is the basis of their meds, so they genetically engineer microbes lots of times to produce some chemistry or also genetically engineer some plants to produce more....remember this, the antidote to the chemistry side effects might be in the plant, but not in a single chemical they are making from a different GMO creation.  So we can eat the plant or fungus, or fermented product, but still have a reaction to the medicine.

t goes way farther than plants and microbes, some medicines are developed from meat chemistries and ev en hair chemistry or feathers of birds to treat diseases.  But that takes lots of patients to find.  Also chemistries to form medicines are taken from organs of animals then purified and sometimes something is added to make it patentable or to classify it as a medicine.  But if the medical industry cured people, their business would shrink...always remember that, they treat the symptoms of the disease or will trigger the immune system to boost protetion like immunotherapy drugs do.

[ArMaP]

I remember hearing about a lightbulb that never burned out, running ror over a 100 years… can’t validate that one but I wouldn’t be surprised.

That's very easy to do: design a lightbulb to work with, for example, 330 Volts and connect it to 110. It will be working at 1/3 of its rated power, so it will last almost indefinitely.

Edited to add that it will be mostly useless, as it will give 1/3 of the light it should.

[UltraBudgie]

That's very easy to do: design a lightbulb to work with, for example, 330 Volts and connect it to 110. It will be working at 1/3 of its rated power, so it will last almost indefinitely.

Edited to add that it will be mostly useless, as it will give 1/3 of the light it should.

You can also very precisely control the number of hours and on-off cycles that a lightbulb will last by adjusting filament design and hardness of vacuum.

If I remember correctly there were some anti-monopoly lawsuits when collusion between manufacturers was discovered. I think they started putting number of hours of lifetime on the package as a result?


Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

[chr0naut]

Well then the scientific thing to do would be to avoid food grown with pesticides and minimize pharmaceutical usage, and see if it has a positive, negative, or neutral effect on your well-being.

That isn't a very scientific approach. It is only considering a single instance and it isn't eliminating other causes of observed outcomes.

Besides, we have data from times before there were pesticides and modern medicines.

Pesticides prevent damage to crops and ensure reliability of food supplies in a world where nature has pest plagues and fungal blooms that are far more damaging in circumstances of intensive monocultural modern farming. If you took away the pesticides totally, we'd go back to having rolling famines again.

And we also have infectious diseases and lifestyles that can contribute to disease. If you took away pharmaceuticals entirely, there would be a lot of preventable disease and deaths. Here's some historical human life expectancies by era:

Era ------------------------------- Date ------------------ Average Life Expectancy
Neolithic Age ------------------- 10,000–4500 BC ---- 28–33 years
Bronze Age --------------------- 3300–1200 BC ------- 28–38 years
Ancient Greece and Rome ---- 510–330 BC --------- 20–35 years
Early Middle Ages -------------- 476–1000 AD ------- 31 years
Pre-Columbian Mesoamerica - 1175–1520 AD ------ 24–32 years
Late Medieval Period ---------- 1300–1500 AD ------- 30–33 years
Early modern Britain ---------- 1450–1750 AD ------- 33–42 years
Industrial Age ------------------ 1760–1860 AD ------- 38–44 years

It wouldn't prove anything at more than an individual level, but I have heard quite a few people say that such an approach has a positive impact on their health. The alternative, accepting what you believe to be true on the say-so of authority, seem to me like a "faith-based" approach. Quite irrational, especially given that the argument that the science provided by those selling "scientifically safe" food and drugs being non-objective due to capitalistic influence is a strong one. Are we just suppose to ignore that?

Honestly, in the light of history, what you propose is outright stupidity built mostly upon quack social marketing supported by contemporary conspiracy theories.

The science (and the industries that use it) hasn't been perfect, but our lives have been empirically and measurably better for it in almost every case.

[UltraBudgie]

Avoiding food grown with pesticides and minimizing pharmaceutical usage, and attempting by one's self to gauge the impact on health, is "outright stupidity built mostly upon quack social marketing supported by contemporary conspiracy theories"?

LOL, okay.

That is all.

[Maxmars]

However, relying upon the industry to affirm the certainty of their practices.
As every homeopathic substance is synthesized and patented... very nice.

Or

Science has rigorously test and tried these products, they have proven worthy and true... all untested and untried approaches should be shunned outright... it's a team thing.

Or 

Quackery is whatever we say it  is....

Believe me...

If western medicine and traditional science have the right to simply cast a pall on anything they fear, I claim the privilege of saying "You're track record is littered with lot's of injuries and 'errors' and 'practices' that even you are ashamed of now."  You're "voice" is spent.

You do not get to define quackery any longer... anyone can.

[rickymouse]

Avoiding food grown with pesticides and minimizing pharmaceutical usage, and attempting by one's self to gauge the impact on health, is "outright stupidity built mostly upon quack social marketing supported by contemporary conspiracy theories"?

LOL, okay.

That is all.

I am using food chemistries to treat my epilepsy.  I tried four classes of epileptic medications and had serious reactions to the meds.  The doctor told me she would not try the last class of drugs because I was too nice a guy to kill.  I had told her that the Asparagus chemistry I had studied as a remedy did work and she said good, keep looking for natural treatments because I was in such poor shape...from my knees down was all dark..almost black, and My teeth were pushing up and breaking when I ate.  My thinking disappeared..no short term memory on those meds and tests showed that I had not cleared the meds out of my body.  the meds I had taken six months prior were still floating around.

So I am still here twenty years later, treating my problem with food science which kids used to use if they had epilepsy.  With my genetics and app I found that I do not break down those chemicals in the meds because I lack some P450 functional enzymes to detox them.  My low body temperature, ninety seven degrees is a clue to that intolerance for many meds.

Finding that out with the genetic information helped me to try other types.  Seems that the same genetic gensets and snps make it so I need way less of the meds, not all people can get the results I get.  Funny thing is if they would have reduced my dosage by ninety percent the meds might have been ok, but reducing them is not a legitimate prescription, because of my size they had to keep the dose in the range specified.

So over the years I have perfected my diet and added some supplements that also help with some of the issues, but I still need to eat special soups I designed to treat it, because Taurine, NAC, and a B-complex do not completely alleviate all the symptoms, sometimes gyrating muscle spasms still occur in my upper arms without the special soups at least two meals a week.  Because of the genes, I just need a small supplement of either taurine or N-acetylcysteine.  It does suck that I can't eat a lot of foods others eat and I used to eat, but most of those foods are actually highly processed and not good for a person anyway.  so getting healthier is just a side effect of my present diet.  The taurine works great in the morning, and the N-acetylcysteine works good at night, because taurine promotes wakefulness where NAC more or less relaxes me

Also, since my type of epilepsy is temporal lobe, sage and Rosemary actually help me where for most epileptics they are bad for them...why...those two herbs actually speed up different sections of the brain so they can handle the scattered disoriented output of the scarred temporal lobe from the accident.  Which when I learned how to utilize it actually increases my ability to learn....at seventy, I still can learn as well as I did in high school and college and beyond.

Strange how one mans medicine is another mans poison.  I cannot know if my personal treatment for my epilepsy will work for others, because of what I have learned about genetics. 

And since the food chemistry I am using does not dope me up, I still get somewhat scrambled if I get riled up or have to make serious decisions, so I really cannot work at a regular job.  I can drive to work and work for say four hours, but might not be able to drive home if my mind is overtaxed...so I stay at home, and study and not get overwhelmed.  I can cut firewood for a while, work in the garden, and do some stuff on the house because I live in the woods, and nature is relaxing to begin with and I can go in and have a bowl of soup if I get stressed when everything goes haywire and just do some studying or chatting online.  I do not start threads for that reason, I just comment on them.  Stress can mess me up, controlling my environment is essential...good thing I owned my own construction business before and know how to control stress.

It would be nice if things would be like they used to be, but oh well, I cannot turn back the clock...oh wait, I just did saturday night....six clocks set back an hour.

OOPs, forgot, only two paragraphs for a post is my new rule.  I screwed up again.

[Maxmars]

I am using food chemistries....

OOPs, forgot, only two paragraphs for a post is my new rule.  I screwed up again.

 No worries mate...

It may be good to have standards, but clinging to them can become robotic...

Please... we're not counting words here... this ain't .... ummm... those other places.

[quintessentone]

I am using food chemistries to treat my epilepsy.  I tried four classes of epileptic medications and had serious reactions to the meds.  The doctor told me she would not try the last class of drugs because I was too nice a guy to kill.  I had told her that the Asparagus chemistry I had studied as a remedy did work and she said good, keep looking for natural treatments because I was in such poor shape...from my knees down was all dark..almost black, and My teeth were pushing up and breaking when I ate.  My thinking disappeared..no short term memory on those meds and tests showed that I had not cleared the meds out of my body.  the meds I had taken six months prior were still floating around.

So I am still here twenty years later, treating my problem with food science which kids used to use if they had epilepsy.  With my genetics and app I found that I do not break down those chemicals in the meds because I lack some P450 functional enzymes to detox them.  My low body temperature, ninety seven degrees is a clue to that intolerance for many meds.

Finding that out with the genetic information helped me to try other types.  Seems that the same genetic gensets and snps make it so I need way less of the meds, not all people can get the results I get.  Funny thing is if they would have reduced my dosage by ninety percent the meds might have been ok, but reducing them is not a legitimate prescription, because of my size they had to keep the dose in the range specified.

So over the years I have perfected my diet and added some supplements that also help with some of the issues, but I still need to eat special soups I designed to treat it, because Taurine, NAC, and a B-complex do not completely alleviate all the symptoms, sometimes gyrating muscle spasms still occur in my upper arms without the special soups at least two meals a week.  Because of the genes, I just need a small supplement of either taurine or N-acetylcysteine.  It does suck that I can't eat a lot of foods others eat and I used to eat, but most of those foods are actually highly processed and not good for a person anyway.  so getting healthier is just a side effect of my present diet.  The taurine works great in the morning, and the N-acetylcysteine works good at night, because taurine promotes wakefulness where NAC more or less relaxes me

Also, since my type of epilepsy is temporal lobe, sage and Rosemary actually help me where for most epileptics they are bad for them...why...those two herbs actually speed up different sections of the brain so they can handle the scattered disoriented output of the scarred temporal lobe from the accident.  Which when I learned how to utilize it actually increases my ability to learn....at seventy, I still can learn as well as I did in high school and college and beyond.

Strange how one mans medicine is another mans poison.  I cannot know if my personal treatment for my epilepsy will work for others, because of what I have learned about genetics. 

And since the food chemistry I am using does not dope me up, I still get somewhat scrambled if I get riled up or have to make serious decisions, so I really cannot work at a regular job.  I can drive to work and work for say four hours, but might not be able to drive home if my mind is overtaxed...so I stay at home, and study and not get overwhelmed.  I can cut firewood for a while, work in the garden, and do some stuff on the house because I live in the woods, and nature is relaxing to begin with and I can go in and have a bowl of soup if I get stressed when everything goes haywire and just do some studying or chatting online.  I do not start threads for that reason, I just comment on them.  Stress can mess me up, controlling my environment is essential...good thing I owned my own construction business before and know how to control stress.

It would be nice if things would be like they used to be, but oh well, I cannot turn back the clock...oh wait, I just did saturday night....six clocks set back an hour.

OOPs, forgot, only two paragraphs for a post is my new rule.  I screwed up again.

I am so glad you are able to find, by trial and error it appears, what works for you.

I absolutely know sage/rosemary/thyme/oregano together work wonders inside and outside the body. Of course, everyone is different, so when experimenting remember "everything in moderation" (at first). I prepare steeped teas as medicines on an occasional basis and to that add spices, dedicated herbals for specific conditions, fruit, honey etc. I also switched to an occasional dose of children's aspirin instead of statins to stave off heart problems/strokes, but I also drink red wine which also benefits heart health (taken in moderation).

I also believe the microbes in our gut need to be balanced and again research and experimentation is needed here to find what works for you. I just learned from a doctor on youtube that the culture in yogurt and those probiotic supplements really do not work because there are unique microbes in our gut that those products do not have. It really is difficult and a sad state of disinformation affairs out there in the health care world.

I too experiment with soup concoctions, mostly for gut microbe balancing and giving the body as complete a spectrum of nutrients as possible.

The science is there to promote the effectiveness of many herbal/spice/food for positive reactions to certain health issues but finding the right combinations for the various ailments for you is the key and, again, that is why making teas and soups offers the easiest and best way for experimentation, IMO. For instance, I have been using turmeric in my medicinal teas but only recently learned that my adding black pepper that turmeric's effectiveness increases by 2000%. I mean really, the research involved to get it right can seem overwhelming.

Of course, a lifetime of abusing one's body in different ways doesn't mean some conditions can be reversed, only symptoms treated, but even within the medical community, it seems to be that the symptoms are treated and there are no cures (yet?).

[rickymouse]

I am so glad you are able to find, by trial and error it appears, what works for you.

I absolutely know sage/rosemary/thyme/oregano together work wonders inside and outside the body. Of course, everyone is different, so when experimenting remember "everything in moderation" (at first). I prepare steeped teas as medicines on an occasional basis and to that add spices, dedicated herbals for specific conditions, fruit, honey etc. I also switched to an occasional dose of children's aspirin instead of statins to stave off heart problems/strokes, but I also drink red wine which also benefits heart health (taken in moderation).

I also believe the microbes in our gut need to be balanced and again research and experimentation is needed here to find what works for you. I just learned from a doctor on youtube that the culture in yogurt and those probiotic supplements really do not work because there are unique microbes in our gut that those products do not have. It really is difficult and a sad state of disinformation affairs out there in the health care world.

I too experiment with soup concoctions, mostly for gut microbe balancing and giving the body as complete a spectrum of nutrients as possible.

The science is there to promote the effectiveness of many herbal/spice/food for positive reactions to certain health issues but finding the right combinations for the various ailments for you is the key and, again, that is why making teas and soups offers the easiest and best way for experimentation, IMO. For instance, I have been using turmeric in my medicinal teas but only recently learned that my adding black pepper that turmeric's effectiveness increases by 2000%. I mean really, the research involved to get it right can seem overwhelming.

Of course, a lifetime of abusing one's body in different ways doesn't mean some conditions can be reversed, only symptoms treated, but even within the medical community, it seems to be that the symptoms are treated and there are no cures (yet?).

I'm not much of a believer in Turmeric.  I like Onions, Garlic, grapefruit, and some of the parsley family of herbs....which include sage, rosemary, and thyme.  I group them by their properties,  The parts of the plant often have differerent health properties.  Celery leaves are rich in apigenin, while the stems most people eat have more Eugenol in them in appreciable levels.  

I have a granddaughter who is highly sensitive to Eugenol, but has no reaction to my soups.  She cannot eat raw celery, but has no problem when it is boiled over an hour.  She has no problems with my beef soup with just a small amount of thyme or bay leaves in it, but they need to boil in it for an hour at least.  Now sage doesn;t have much eugenol in it, so I can add that right in the end, and I put sage rosemary on the chicken when I roast them....poultry seasoning basically, and she can eat it if I roast it longer that recipes call for...till you can pull apart the chicken with your fingers.
I have an eugenol intolerance, but I do not lack DAO enzyme genetically like she does so I do get milder reactions,  My grandkids do not break down Histamines well , they lack the DAO enzyme genetically, two copies of multiple snps, so they tend to overreact to foods and viruses and even exercise sometimes.  

I consider black pepper a medicine myself, it can help with a lot of things, but it also may not be appropriate for kids because of their rapid growth.  They do not evaluate all the properties of herbs most times, some common herbs have side effects, some foods with anti-cancder properties destroy rapidly dividing properties of cells too, so not good if you are healing or going through a growth spurt.  Rapidly dividing cells gobble up too much of some chemistries which causes atopsis of the cell. So, I can comprehend why some kids do not want to eat them when they are young.  A lot of info on the net touts the greatness of the chemistries, but rarely do they state the negative properties a food or herb chemistry has