The 13 biggest SCIENCE LIES you've been told all of your life.

[quintessentone]

I'm not much of a believer in Turmeric.  I like Onions, Garlic, grapefruit, and some of the parsley family of herbs....which include sage, rosemary, and thyme.  I group them by their properties,  The parts of the plant often have differerent health properties.  Celery leaves are rich in apigenin, while the stems most people eat have more Eugenol in them in appreciable levels.  

I have a granddaughter who is highly sensitive to Eugenol, but has no reaction to my soups.  She cannot eat raw celery, but has no problem when it is boiled over an hour.  She has no problems with my beef soup with just a small amount of thyme or bay leaves in it, but they need to boil in it for an hour at least.  Now sage doesn;t have much eugenol in it, so I can add that right in the end, and I put sage rosemary on the chicken when I roast them....poultry seasoning basically, and she can eat it if I roast it longer that recipes call for...till you can pull apart the chicken with your fingers.
I have an eugenol intolerance, but I do not lack DAO enzyme genetically like she does so I do get milder reactions,  My grandkids do not break down Histamines well , they lack the DAO enzyme genetically, two copies of multiple snps, so they tend to overreact to foods and viruses and even exercise sometimes.  

I consider black pepper a medicine myself, it can help with a lot of things, but it also may not be appropriate for kids because of their rapid growth.  They do not evaluate all the properties of herbs most times, some common herbs have side effects, some foods with anti-cancder properties destroy rapidly dividing properties of cells too, so not good if you are healing or going through a growth spurt.  Rapidly dividing cells gobble up too much of some chemistries which causes atopsis of the cell. So, I can comprehend why some kids do not want to eat them when they are young.  A lot of info on the net touts the greatness of the chemistries, but rarely do they state the negative properties a food or herb chemistry has

Nor do they explain that an organic certificate does not guarantee safe or nutritious produce.

All I know is that 'more research is needed' in almost every study I read these days. 

I guess you and I do our in-depth research on a case by case or cause by cause basis when needed and that then helps us decide what goes in the soup pot or the tea concoction.

[rickymouse]

Nor do they explain that an organic certificate does not guarantee safe or nutritious produce.

All I know is that 'more research is needed' in almost every study I read these days. 

I guess you and I do our in-depth research on a case by case or cause by cause basis when needed and that then helps us decide what goes in the soup pot or the tea concoction.

Wwe usually buy a half a  cow every year, Grass fed, grass finished, everything organic and until last year, they were certified organic.  But because of the rising price of certified organic certification, the farmer we buy from has dropped the certification on the cows, but it is still on the land they grow the grasses on to feed them.  So, basically the only thing they did was quit paying the government for certification.  It is still certified one hundred percent grassfed though, that is the important part.

But since demand for their cows is so high and they have many customers, I haven't been able to get a half this year or last.  I buy around fifty pounds of burger, six chuck roasts, lots of soup bones and marrow bones, and some liver and heart.  Plus we are getting some sirloin steaks and a brisket.  The cost this year is about eight twenty five a pound for the burger, roasts, and brisket and sirloin steaks.  then about three fifty a pound for the liver and heart and the meaty soup bones...which are like little roasts.  The marrow bones run about two fifty a pound.  When we got the whole half, we usually gave away half the steaks, the sirloin roasts, and the rolled rump roasts and limited chuck roasts as christmas presents to my family members, basically half the half head of cow went for presents.  With processing it ran a little less than seven bucks a pound that way.  So we are forced to give restaurant gift cards and money for Christmas now

You are right, just because something is certified organic, doesn't mean it is better.  But because of the farmer that grows our beef, it tastes great, they use zero pesticides because it is not needed for the grass and hay, and their supplements they give the cows are organic and actually everything they use is of good quality...because they sell to their friends, and their customers are now their friends.

The beef is Limosine, it is a good breed of cow or steer for flavor.  They were paying a lot for the certification of the place that processes their meat, and they gave up that certification too, but the plant adopted all organic certified stuff and do everything for all the farmers organic.  It raised the price of processing about ten cents a pound hanging weight, but since all of their regular customers like to have it more natural, they kept up all the practices and organic certified cleaning products and are basically all still organic to match requirements.  Spo nothing has changed, except the cost remains lower...like a hundred bucks a half cow is missing for the certification costs, or about thirty cents a pound did not increase.

They do not cut corners, and keep records of what they put on the land and the cedrtifiability of the cows if they want to go back to certified organic. 

That is one thing we won't do, we are not going to buy beef at the store much because their beef tastes so much better and yes, from my research it is actually way more healthy...or should I say way less unhealthy than commercial beef in the stores.

Other than that, we buy mostly organic 100 percent grass fed milk or local milk from a farm near escanaba in the stores...and we buy organic carrots, and if making coleslaw, organic cabbage, and organic celery, basically because they have better taste.  Organic light olive oil is probably better than store bought, it is tested more for purity, the commercial ones are being cut with other oils sometimes.

We buy local veggies if we can get them...knowing the farmers is beneficial because we hear how much pesticides and herbicides they use...this is the U.P of michigan....we stay connected here    

No

[quintessentone]

Wwe usually buy a half a  cow every year, Grass fed, grass finished, everything organic and until last year, they were certified organic.  But because of the rising price of certified organic certification, the farmer we buy from has dropped the certification on the cows, but it is still on the land they grow the grasses on to feed them.  So, basically the only thing they did was quit paying the government for certification.  It is still certified one hundred percent grassfed though, that is the important part.

But since demand for their cows is so high and they have many customers, I haven't been able to get a half this year or last.  I buy around fifty pounds of burger, six chuck roasts, lots of soup bones and marrow bones, and some liver and heart.  Plus we are getting some sirloin steaks and a brisket.  The cost this year is about eight twenty five a pound for the burger, roasts, and brisket and sirloin steaks.  then about three fifty a pound for the liver and heart and the meaty soup bones...which are like little roasts.  The marrow bones run about two fifty a pound.  When we got the whole half, we usually gave away half the steaks, the sirloin roasts, and the rolled rump roasts and limited chuck roasts as christmas presents to my family members, basically half the half head of cow went for presents.  With processing it ran a little less than seven bucks a pound that way.  So we are forced to give restaurant gift cards and money for Christmas now

You are right, just because something is certified organic, doesn't mean it is better.  But because of the farmer that grows our beef, it tastes great, they use zero pesticides because it is not needed for the grass and hay, and their supplements they give the cows are organic and actually everything they use is of good quality...because they sell to their friends, and their customers are now their friends.

The beef is Limosine, it is a good breed of cow or steer for flavor.  They were paying a lot for the certification of the place that processes their meat, and they gave up that certification too, but the plant adopted all organic certified stuff and do everything for all the farmers organic.  It raised the price of processing about ten cents a pound hanging weight, but since all of their regular customers like to have it more natural, they kept up all the practices and organic certified cleaning products and are basically all still organic to match requirements.  Spo nothing has changed, except the cost remains lower...like a hundred bucks a half cow is missing for the certification costs, or about thirty cents a pound did not increase.

They do not cut corners, and keep records of what they put on the land and the cedrtifiability of the cows if they want to go back to certified organic. 

That is one thing we won't do, we are not going to buy beef at the store much because their beef tastes so much better and yes, from my research it is actually way more healthy...or should I say way less unhealthy than commercial beef in the stores.

Other than that, we buy mostly organic 100 percent grass fed milk or local milk from a farm near escanaba in the stores...and we buy organic carrots, and if making coleslaw, organic cabbage, and organic celery, basically because they have better taste.  Organic light olive oil is probably better than store bought, it is tested more for purity, the commercial ones are being cut with other oils sometimes.

We buy local veggies if we can get them...knowing the farmers is beneficial because we hear how much pesticides and herbicides they use...this is the U.P of michigan....we stay connected here    

No

No? As in you don't add ingredients together to make soups to treat a specific ailment?

[rickymouse]

No? As in you don't add ingredients together to make soups to treat a specific ailment?

The wife and great grandkids were yelling to me that there was a mouse in the house.  I figured I was done and posted that.  I went down with the live traps for the mouse only to find it was on the inside of the partly open screen of the patio door, climbing up the pet screen and peeking into the house.  

So, evidently I left the post go through with a no from an extra paragraph I was going to write.  And The mouse was not in the house, but the great grandkids wanted to open the door and catch it....that got a stern NO from me when they were trying to convince the wife to let it in.  It was either a white footed mouse or a deer mouse....we have both here, and they are cute, but not in the house.  I just had to take the heater blower motor off the plow trucks, it wasn't turning, I thought it had burnt out from a mouse nest, but it was all right, the smoke coming into the cab was from the two heater coils next to the blower motor catching the mouse nest on fire.  Yeah, it looked like the stuffing from the bottom of the seat.  And included parts of a pair of cotton gloves I found that were pretty much torn to shreds and hauled away.

I told the wife when she was helping pump the brakes when I changed the wheel cylinder and a brake line in the back...She screached and I came running, she said there was a mouse in the cab...I told her I had seen a chippy, she told me chippies are cute, mice are not.  Two more times of squeeling and she finally jumped out of the truck.  It's a high truck and she usually takes a lot of time getting out, she is seventy three years old.  I have to pull her into the truck...but she jumped out like a teenager because two more mice came out.  I think her screaming scared the shit out of the mice, isn't that cruelity to animals hurting their ears like that?  Good thing I had the wheels blocked, the truck was running and it is a stick.

[quintessentone]

The wife and great grandkids were yelling to me that there was a mouse in the house.  I figured I was done and posted that.  I went down with the live traps for the mouse only to find it was on the inside of the partly open screen of the patio door, climbing up the pet screen and peeking into the house.  

So, evidently I left the post go through with a no from an extra paragraph I was going to write.  And The mouse was not in the house, but the great grandkids wanted to open the door and catch it....that got a stern NO from me when they were trying to convince the wife to let it in.  It was either a white footed mouse or a deer mouse....we have both here, and they are cute, but not in the house.  I just had to take the heater blower motor off the plow trucks, it wasn't turning, I thought it had burnt out from a mouse nest, but it was all right, the smoke coming into the cab was from the two heater coils next to the blower motor catching the mouse nest on fire.  Yeah, it looked like the stuffing from the bottom of the seat.  And included parts of a pair of cotton gloves I found that were pretty much torn to shreds and hauled away.

I told the wife when she was helping pump the brakes when I changed the wheel cylinder and a brake line in the back...She screached and I came running, she said there was a mouse in the cab...I told her I had seen a chippy, she told me chippies are cute, mice are not.  Two more times of squeeling and she finally jumped out of the truck.  It's a high truck and she usually takes a lot of time getting out, she is seventy three years old.  I have to pull her into the truck...but she jumped out like a teenager because two more mice came out.  I think her screaming scared the shit out of the mice, isn't that cruelity to animals hurting their ears like that?  Good thing I had the wheels blocked, the truck was running and it is a stick.

Our cats handle the mice issues so the only screaming, I would imagine, would be little mouse screams which we never hear.

[LightAngel]

I’ll add to that planned obsolescence, we get told we have to consume less and recycle properly, meanwhile most of the products we buy are actually designed to fail well before their useful lifespan. Also so technology is drip fed as with smart phones so we keep buying the latest version when it was actually ready for production long before its release. 

Exactly!

[BeTheGoddess]

Oh, i think it's a safe bet, quite a few of the things in there are bad for us, or the environment.

In my opinion, Statins make old people go senile and can bring on dementia.

Same with long-term use of the likes of Valium and other benzodiazepines.

Which is another drug they still tend to prescribe to the elderly like candy for the likes of anxiety, insomnia, or muscle issues. 

As far as im aware, turmeric is indeed good for us in moderation as it's full of antioxidants.

But it isn’t a miracle cure, i wish it was.

As to the debate about map projections, no point in debating the flat earth nonsense.

It just degenerates into madness, because that's what it is.

Drugs dont make flat-earth people and you should know its cointelpro shit to make some question reality.

BBut Dolly had braces.

[andy06shake]

Drugs dont make flat-earth people and you should know its cointelpro shit to make some question reality.

BBut Dolly had braces.

I suppose that might depend on the substance. 

I seem to remember Dolly wearing braces when she smiles at Jaws, so....

Guess I'm guilty of that illusion at least.

[Harte]

The video claims the Earth is flat.
Hence, there is nothing whatsoever of value in it.

Harte