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This post was last modified: 02-10-2026, 11:20 AM by FlyersFan. 
(02-10-2026, 11:08 AM)andy06shake Wrote: As to then English speaking part, I do believe that the United States does not have an official national language. English is the official language.
English was designated as the official language of the United States in an executive order on March 1, 2025. Legal government documents are in required to be in English. (and for the most part, pretty much always have been)
The majority of the U.S. population ( 77%) speaks only English at home as of 2024, according to the American Community Survey (ACS) of the U.S. Census Bureau. The majority of those that speak another language at home also speak English as a second language.
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(02-10-2026, 11:18 AM)andy06shake Wrote: "Love vs hate" isn't about firepower Flyers
Um ... that was ultrabudgie ... not me.
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(02-10-2026, 11:15 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Still not telling me what constituted legal immigration back then aside from being able to make the trip. I guess it depends on what time frame you are looking at.
A trip here in 1600 would require different things then in 1800.
I DO KNOW what makes immigration legal now.
And all those illegals are not fulfilling the law.
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(02-10-2026, 11:18 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: English is the official language.
English was designated as the official language of the United States in an executive order on March 1, 2025. Legal government documents are in required to be in English.
The majority of the U.S. population (77%) speaks only English at home as of 2024, according to the American Community Survey (ACS) of the U.S. Census Bureau. The majority of those that speak another language at home also speak English as a second language.
With the caveat being it was done by executive order, not by a law passed through Congress.
Trump did that to play to his voter base Flyers.
It's not hard to fathom.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(02-10-2026, 11:15 AM)andy06shake Wrote: As to bad mouthing the crown, good on him. 
agreed.
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(02-10-2026, 11:19 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Um ... that was ultrabudgie ... not me.
My bad.
It's because im responding to you both at the same/similar time.
Appologies.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(02-10-2026, 11:22 AM)andy06shake Wrote: With the cravat being it was done by executive order, not by a law passed through Congress.
Trump did that to play to his voter base Flyers.
Executive order vs Congress doesn't matter.
English is the official language of America.
It has always been the language of official government documents.
It is what is primarily spoken by 77% of the country.
It is what is spoken by most of the rest as a second language.
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(02-10-2026, 11:22 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I guess it depends on what time frame you are looking at.
A trip here in 1600 would require different things then in 1800.
I DO KNOW what makes immigration legal now.
And all those illegals are not fulfilling the law.
Im apt to ponder it would depend on where and how you landed back then.
Keeping in mind, transportation was quite a big thing back then also.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_transportation
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(02-10-2026, 11:24 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Executive order vs Congress doesn't matter.
English is the official language of America.
It has always been the language of official government documents.
It is what is primarily spoken by 77% of the country.
It is what is spoken by most of the rest as a second language.
Might matter to the 25 to 28 million US residents who have limited English proficiency or don't speak the language.
Languages dont make nations buddy, people do.
And they come in all sorts of different shapes and sizes.
Anyhoo, ive went a few pages now.
Guess we will simply have to agree to disagree on this topic.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(02-10-2026, 11:32 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Might matter to the 25 to 28 million US residents who have limited English proficiency or don't speak the language.
Languages dont make nations buddy, people do.
Irrelevant. The official language of America is English. That's the language of all legal documents, the language used in schools, and what is primarily spoken by 77% of the population and what is usually spoken as a second language by the rest.
A country has to have an official language for legal documents and schooling. Has to. A country simply can't function without one. And since the vast majority of Americans speak English and always have, that's the official language.
It's up to the legal immigrants to learn the official language and to assimulate.
It's up to the illegal aliens to leave. They can come back legally and in the mean time learn the language before coming here so they can assimilate and contribute to the country in a positive way.
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