What to do about the 9 percent without American pride

[Maxmars]

While a bit off topic, I will venture to add that although Gandhi was evidently a human being...
which means prone to errant ideation, as all of us are;

His ideals of non-violence as a means to communicate dissent was nevertheless a good thing...
it saved lives, and actually communicated a message... rather than a 'feeling.'

[putnam6]

While a bit off topic, I will venture to add that although Gandhi was evidently a human being...
which means prone to errant ideation, as all of us are;

His ideals of non-violence as a means to communicate dissent was nevertheless a good thing...
it saved lives, and actually communicated a message... rather than a 'feeling.'

How long did the Brits think Ghandi's nonviolent resistance mantra was just an idea?

This highlights why Antifa needs to agitate, harass, and be violent because nobody will notice them otherwise.

[Maxmars]

It usually boils down to what we are told.... what we believe... and the truth.

Impatience is the activist mantra.

What they want ... they demand now.

"Change ... or we will hurt you."
Says the group to the world...

Sound like terrorism a bit?
Extortion, just a tad?
A little hint of "I'll hold my breath until I get what I want."

[putnam6]

It usually boils down to what we are told.... what we believe... and the truth.

Impatience is the activist mantra.

What they want ... they demand now.

"Change ... or we will hurt you."
Says the group to the world...

Sound like terrorism a bit?
Extortion, just a tad?
A little hint of "I'll hold my breath until I get what I want."

Which never works when it's such a small percentage of the population and has to be sponsored by foreign entities...

It's not organic, and it loses its authenticity, and it's nowhere near the Chenowith rule 

3.5% ruleConcept in political science, according to which 3.5% of the population is enough to participate in nonviolent protests for a change of power

[quintessentone]

It usually boils down to what we are told.... what we believe... and the truth.

Impatience is the activist mantra.

What they want ... they demand now.

"Change ... or we will hurt you."
Says the group to the world...

Sound like terrorism a bit?
Extortion, just a tad?
A little hint of "I'll hold my breath until I get what I want."

And yet boycotting big companies can work to make change with very little hurt to them.

"I'll withhold my support until I get what I want."

Rosa Parks was one person who was a catalyst to make big changes.

[putnam6]

The Civil Rights movement was massive and organized and had one righteous goal,

whereas those 9% without American Pride are various groupings thrown under the same umbrella, with differing goals and plans

[Bootless]

It usually boils down to what we are told.... what we believe... and the truth.

Impatience is the activist mantra.

What they want ... they demand now.

"Change ... or we will hurt you."
Says the group to the world...

Sound like terrorism a bit?
Extortion, just a tad?
A little hint of "I'll hold my breath until I get what I want."

[ note: I posted this on a different thread yesterday. Moved it to here. ]

You seem to be rather hung up on activism, as if it were a bad thing. So: 

I don't know if there is a thread about Project Esther or not, too lazy to check.

I saw this video today and realized that this bringing in Feds to quell protest is sort of like phase 2 of Project Esther, or at least the beginning of the main goal.



Project Esther: The American Purge Begins

Wikipedia, which has been targeted.

Project Esther is a project of The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank based in Washington, D.C., that aims to suppress pro-Palestinian protests and what it classifies as antisemitism. The effort has received support from several evangelical Christian organizations but no major Jewish ones.

According to The New York Times, Slate, Haaretz, The Forward, and Jewish Insider, Project Esther does not address right-wing antisemitism.
...
The project describes pro-Palestinian groups as part of a "Hamas Support Network", and aims to dismantle the pro-Palestinian movement in the US, its support at schools and universities, progressive organizations, and in Congress by labeling them as "effectively a terrorist support network".
...
According to Mondoweiss, the project is intended not to combat antisemitism, but to combat political activism, particularly by the left.

I got to about page 11 of the Project Esther document. It starts becoming an actual enemies list, of Universities, Media (page 14), Representatives of Congress (page 15), and American Jewish denominations not particularly interested in doing genocide (page 17).

And I guess the medals of the U.S. genociders at Wounded Knee will not be removed, or even considered again as of September 25, 2025 per order of War Secretary.

Why should anybody be expected to be proud of genocide?

[Maxmars]

Yeah, I get there are some topics which I return to...

But it's not so much a hang up, as the repeated use of terms that all resolve down 
to one thing: 

Amplifying the diatribes and utterances of agitation until it's a spectacle of rage and a firestorm of chaos.... i.e.  "Modern" activism...

These "activists" take any proposition... and rather than debate or explore it... they turn it into a faux virtue battle... entertainment producers love it.

Agitation of the citizens is not a problem.   Crying out , and nudging people towards naked hatred is.

Our is a culture already deeply influenced by information "used" by the highest bidders...

I don't think our corpus of "agitator activists" give a shit about anything other than who is sponsoring them... and when the next rally is.  But somehow our journalists find them glorious.