St. Teresa

[Sirius]

Yup it's time for angles and demons for UFO's and with a saint. Lilith left..something about toads

I'm going into this blind, my knowledge of Catholics things is basically what someone else posts here on the forum..What I know about St Teresa is below

This is from American Cosmic UFOs Religion Technology

Beside me, on the left hand, appeared an angel in bodily form, such as I am not in the habit of seeing except very rarely. Tough I often have visions of  angels, I do not see them. They come to me only after the manner of  the first type of vision that I described. But it was our Lord’s will that I should see this angel in the  following way. He was not tall but short, and very beautiful; and his face was so aflame that he appeared to be one of  the highest rank of  angels, who seem to be all on fire. In his hands I saw a great golden spear, and at the iron tip there appeared to be a point o  fire. Tis he plunged into my heart several times so that it penetrated to my entrails. When he pulled it out, I felt that he took them with it, and left me utterly consumed be the great Love of God. The pain was so server it made me utter several moans. The sweetness caused by this intense pain is so extreme that one cannot possibly will it to cease, nor is one's soul then content with anything but God. This is not a physical, but spiritual pain, though the body has some share in it.

There is a couple of things that pops out. Firstly on the grim side, the stabbing of the spear bit reminds me of similar tales in occult death rights, so it's both interesting that she lived and curious about events surrounding it. In the death right it wasn't an angle...strong extradimensional vibes here..afterlife 

Ignoring the grim side, we can replace the angle with a mantis from popular ufo lore or Bob and his masters and they do similar things. If you listen to the people, they are not just abducted and operated on or cut by the mantis whatever, it's a whole transformative experience. One guy started talking to insects, something along those lines.

She mentions visions of angles or what?..I wonder if this was orbs, elementals, fairies?...need descriptions

There was other mentions like levitation and bi-location in the book. Basically an OOBE but also manifesting, and it's hinted that the person manifested where there was a crashed ufo later

[Maxmars]

I'm especially intrigued by the distinction between vision and 'seeing.'

Visions are not unreal things... yet we can only describe them as having been seen.
(Perhaps Mozart heard them.)

She describes the ability to control the pain response... that is very interesting.

Does this account mean she is a saint?  I am ignorant in this area.

[Sirius]

I'm especially intrigued by the distinction between vision and 'seeing.'

Visions are not unreal things... yet we can only describe them as having been seen.
(Perhaps Mozart heard them.)

She describes the ability to control the pain response... that is very interesting.

Does this account mean she is a saint?  I am ignorant in this area.

No idea, I have to research these things. People often lie about what they see, they won't admit it was some form of telepathy. Visions can be orbs or something that appears to be an illusion, incorporeal etc.

Now where to get an actual accounting of events and the person?

[Sirius]

control the pain...possible but bring madness or you need to leave your body. Intense focus can counter pain, but how long can you focus really hard for?

[Tecate]

The problem I see with “Visions” vs “Seeing” is that it is essentially in the eye of the beholder. Meaning that the vision is of something that is currently incomprehensible to the observer, versus the seer is focused and following something that they do in fact comprehend.

There have been instances recorded where intense physical pain has been associated with a focus of the psyche. POWs have experienced this phenomenon. They have built whole new lives in their minds. 

If, in fact, I have a vision of something that may occur, am I seeing something that is definitely there?

Angels, demons and visions of possible outcomes vs seeing these entities is a different story imho.

as usual, my 2 pesos…


Tecate

[Sirius]

The problem I see with “Visions” vs “Seeing” is that it is essentially in the eye of the beholder. Meaning that the vision is of something that is currently incomprehensible to the observer, versus the seer is focused and following something that they do in fact comprehend.

There have been instances recorded where intense physical pain has been associated with a focus of the psyche. POWs have experienced this phenomenon. They have built whole new lives in their minds. 

If, in fact, I have a vision of something that may occur, am I seeing something that is definitely there?

Angels, demons and visions of possible outcomes vs seeing these entities is a different story imho.

as usual, my 2 pesos…


Tecate

Very good yes, fantasy vs reality.

Now if some kind soul will just point me towards the saints that would be appreciated

[Sirius]

Had a quick look at things here, they seem to call telepathy ecstasy/reverberations/raptures I don't know the nomenclature that well. I suspect that when she wasn't levitating she was blasting everyone around her with telekinesis putting all sorts of strange thoughts and feelings their heads. Probably why she was kept away from people

[Sirius]

Right so there is links here with NHI downloads and CE5 that is popular today. Writing "telepathy ecstasy/reverberations/raptures" all in the same sentence was weird also.

All of the above is the same thing. I have been saying for a while the CE5 and download folk are weird..no offence..these things just has an inevitable conclusion.

To muddle things further, some are building devices with it, essentially praying for inspiration. There are many methods, I made a couple of posts on how to do it myself.

So NHI technology essentially and we use it every day. Knowing computer science gives you a head start with things, because of the thinking as I understand it (still digging into this)

Who knows where the inspiration for the internet and the computers we use came from today, it could all be alien tech. Or blessed, my bet is on the Space Spider Queen. Makes me feel weird using the internet thinking about it to much.

Telepathy currently seems to have a very broad definition, someone mentioned remote viewing as telepathy? Is RV also a form of telepathy?

Telepathy (from Ancient Greek τῆλε ([i]têle)[/i] 'distant' and πάθος/-πάθεια ([i]páthos/-pátheia)[/i] 'feeling, perception, passion, affliction, experience')[sup][3][/sup][sup][4][/sup] is the purported vicarious transmission of information from one person's mind to another's without using any known human sensory channels or physical interaction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy

feeling, perception, passion, affliction, experience

I guess perception makes it so.

The key things for me here is the passion, affliction and feeling. I used to filter UFO experiences to only look at people that had some kind of emotional response with it.

[IgnorantGod]

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So NHI technology essentially and we use it every day. Knowing computer science gives you a head start with things, because of the thinking as I understand it (still digging into this)

Who knows where the inspiration for the internet and the computers we use came from today, it could all be alien tech. Or blessed, my bet is on the Space Spider Queen. Makes me feel weird using the internet thinking about it to much.

[...]

Computers are really just simplified neural networks, with different set of tables that map electrical pulse sequences (no electricity detected=0, when detected=1). I'd bet it really came from brain studies.

The logic is the same, what programmers refer to oriented-object programming looks like the application of Plato's Perfect Forms model.

[Sirius]

Computers are really just simplified neural networks, with different set of tables that map electrical pulse sequences (no electricity detected=0, when detected=1). I'd bet it really came from brain studies.

The logic is the same, what programmers refer to oriented-object programming looks like the application of Plato's Perfect Forms model.

0 and 1 is over simplifcations and meaningless unless you are toggling a light, you need gates...
"and" "nand" "or" "nor" "xor" "xnor"

I don't think this stuff has anything to do with the brain though, or only in that it acts as a receiver, but it also looks like the whole body can receive information and DNA gets weird.

Consciousness isn't internal, I have been ejected from my body before, it's not fun...and I mean everything else. We have saints here also who did bi-location

On the general side both Diane and Jacques made some strange comments regarding NHI tech and computers/internet