St. Teresa

[IgnorantGod]

0 and 1 is over simplifcations and meaningless unless you are toggling a light, you need gates...
"and" "nand" "or" "nor" "xor" "xnor"

I don't think this stuff has anything to do with the brain though, or only in that it acts as a receiver, but it also looks like the whole body can receive information and DNA gets weird.

Consciousness isn't internal, I have been ejected from my body before, it's not fun...and I mean everything else. We have saints here also who did bi-location

On the general side both Diane and Jacques made some strange comments regarding NHI tech and computers/internet

Yes, logic circuit is part of the architecture. But basically, they still works on the binary sequences from the physical electrical pulses.

Well, I do agree it's oversimplified. For the brain, no objection here, I think there's more 'there' than simple binary sequences, though the logic of electrical pulses of computer circuits appears to be similar to what's been observed from analogue lifeforms.

[Swada]

"strong extradimensional vibes here..afterlife"

Yes.  Those that don't cling to their avatar will experience death no more.

[Sirius]

I can't really continue this thread at this point in time. I just spent 3 days crying over St Teresa and I have not even read her autobiography, maybe next week...the things we do for love

THIS

Telepathy (from Ancient Greek τῆλε (têle) 'distant' and πάθος/-πάθεια (páthos/-pátheia) 'feeling, perception, passion, affliction, experience')[sup][3][/sup][sup][4][/sup] is the purported vicarious transmission of information from one person's mind to another's without using any known human sensory channels or physical interaction. 

feeling, perception, passion, affliction, experience

Curious what Remote Viewers are looking at....buzz buzz buzz bees...oh braves ones, share you secrets, there should be a clammer and a noise should it not be so

[Sirius]

The old Nun was a sage! hahahahahahaha a dreamer and a poet

It was at about the time of this latter incident that the piety 
of the now adolescent Teresa began to grow cold. She became 
over eager to read romantic tales of chivalry, began to cultivate 
her feminine charms, and to plan a possible marriage. The ab- 
sorption of her fantasy with chivalrous themes along with her 
facility for writing stirred her at this time to try, together with 
her brother, writing a book, of the kind she liked to read. In 
the judgment of her early Jesuit biographer, Ribera, it contained 
"much that could be said for it." 

Synesthesia 

"When I left my father's house I felt the 
separation so keenly that the feeling will not be greater, I think, 
when I die. For it seemed that every bone in my body was be- 
ing sundered"

 The fear so increased that, she says, it made her diligently 
seek spiritual persons for consultations, marking the beginning 
of her struggles to explain her supernatural experiences.

The story is to complicated at this stage, I don't have enough books. The catholic system is overly complicated, so much bureaucracy makes me want to rebuild it. There has been a long list of saints https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_saints

Never knew, thought there was like 10...

Need more text on the people around her and what they said. The good stuff is probably everywhere they try and explain or justify what she wrote for gaining context

35 Continues on the same subject: the foundation of this 
house of our glorious father St. Joseph. Tells of the means 
the Lord provided by which holy poverty would be ob- 
served in it, the reason why she left the lady she was stay- 
ing with and returned, and of some other things that hap- 
pened to her 302 

36 Continues the same subject. Tells how this monastery of 
the glorious St. Joseph was finally founded and of the 
strong opposition and persecution the nuns had to 
undergo after taking the habit. Tells also of the great trials 
and temptations she suffered and how the Lord brought 
her out of them all victoriously to His own praise and 
glory 309 

I can destroy a couple of narrative with this

From the detailed exposition of these forms of prayer the 
reader understands more easily how the latter ways of watering 
were accomplished in the soul of Teresa; how the Lord purified 
her, flooded her with grace, allowed her to perceive His divine 
presence, hear His voice, penetrate the mysterious abyss of His 
trinitarian life, and come into contact with the most varied 
realities of the supernatural world. Throughout the pages of her 
book a steady series of rare and wonderful things is set before 
our minds: ecstasies, visions, locutions from God, transpierc- 
ing of the soul, infused love of the purest and strongest kind, 
new wisdom, the flowering of sturdy virtues, premonitions of 
a probable death of love, and foretastes of beatific life

Still getting angry/frustrated reading, need more books ...It appears the Siddhis are known in Catholic circles and the process of unlocking them. Unfortunately the "Spirit Cooking" is floating around in pop culture with all negative connotations and it's the only thing folks know, assigned to the realms of occultists and mystics..? Her castle sounds allot like chakra's and reminds me of some Qabalistic things and the process if introspection and development.

Some of what I'm reading looks like classical curses that comes with rewards, complicated topic.

At the very least getting a better understanding of the spiritual side will help sort out physical manifestations that we should worry about from Tulpa's and other strange woo woo things. The wooo wooo is going to come haunt you. Maybe even learn about yourself

If your missing it, the transformation process is being induced in people correlating to UFO phenomena. There is also still whatever is happening in the skies going on about and harm being done to animals and peoples... 

Allot of the propaganda unraveling in front of me

[Byrd]

Yup it's time for angles and demons for UFO's and with a saint. Lilith left..something about toads

I'm going into this blind, my knowledge of Catholics things is basically what someone else posts here on the forum..What I know about St Teresa is below

This is from American Cosmic UFOs Religion Technology

There is a couple of things that pops out. Firstly on the grim side, the stabbing of the spear bit reminds me of similar tales in occult death rights, so it's both interesting that she lived and curious about events surrounding it. In the death right it wasn't an angle...strong extradimensional vibes here..afterlife 

Ignoring the grim side, we can replace the angle with a mantis from popular ufo lore or Bob and his masters and they do similar things. If you listen to the people, they are not just abducted and operated on or cut by the mantis whatever, it's a whole transformative experience. One guy started talking to insects, something along those lines.

She mentions visions of angles or what?..I wonder if this was orbs, elementals, fairies?...need descriptions

There was other mentions like levitation and bi-location in the book. Basically an OOBE but also manifesting, and it's hinted that the person manifested where there was a crashed ufo later

Okay, let me give you some context here:

So-- she would enter a religious trance (called 'ecstasy')  that was very similar to what the Tibetan llamas (and other groups into meditation and mysticism) had and similar to shamanic trances.  If you've seen the Whirling Dervishes dancing, their dancing will put them into this kind of state.  So will certain kinds of drumming.

This is just how the brain processes these things.

What each person sees and experiences depends on their culture and their beliefs.  Buddhists experience Buddha.  Taoists experience the Tao. Voodoo practitioners experience many different gods.  Shamans don't experience gods but they do experience nature archetypes.  Catholic saints encounter the God that their culture told them to experience.

Think of it as "deep meditation", because you can also enter this kind of state (where the sensations of the world do not impact your conscious mind) in hypnosis and self-hypnosis.

So all these people (including the hypnotized) can experience a real pain from an insubstantial object... and in reverse, these people can also manage to ignore real and devastating pain when they are in this trance.

The spear is an echo of the spear of the Roman soldier who stabbed Jesus as he was dying.  

St. Teresa founded the "hermit nuns" ( Discalced Carmelites) -- a group of nuns who locked themselves away from the world (sometimes alone in a monastic cell, with only a window with bars (or a grille) to talk to the outside world (others gave them food and drink and clothing on occasion.  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_of_Avila)

She observed that there were (for her) seven "degrees" of meditation; the final one was a merging with the divine.


...this is kind of the "Cliff Notes" version.  I'm skipping over a LOT of things.

It's a beautiful statue; the expression on the angel's face is marvelous.

[Byrd]

 Her castle sounds allot like chakra's and reminds me of some Qabalistic things and the process if introspection and development.

Some of what I'm reading looks like classical curses that comes with rewards, complicated topic.

It's not really similar to chakras and the Qabala.  It's closer to "levels" in guided hypnotism (where you "walk down" or "into" a series of rooms...basically going deeper and deeper into a trance.

She'd be highly offended at the analogy... she was an extremely devout Christian and the things she experienced had been experienced by other Christian monastics and indeed she read all she could find on other Christian mystics to confirm that her visions were true.

In our worldview, she'd be a bit of a religious fanatic.  She ran away at age 7 to help defeat the Moors with the power of religion and would do self-harm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortificat..._the_flesh) to "purify herself" from evil.

[Sirius]

Okay, let me give you some context here:

So-- she would enter a religious trance (called 'ecstasy')  that was very similar to what the Tibetan llamas (and other groups into meditation and mysticism) had and similar to shamanic trances.  If you've seen the Whirling Dervishes dancing, their dancing will put them into this kind of state.  So will certain kinds of drumming.

This is just how the brain processes these things.

What each person sees and experiences depends on their culture and their beliefs.  Buddhists experience Buddha.  Taoists experience the Tao. Voodoo practitioners experience many different gods.  Shamans don't experience gods but they do experience nature archetypes.  Catholic saints encounter the God that their culture told them to experience.

Think of it as "deep meditation", because you can also enter this kind of state (where the sensations of the world do not impact your conscious mind) in hypnosis and self-hypnosis.

So all these people (including the hypnotized) can experience a real pain from an insubstantial object... and in reverse, these people can also manage to ignore real and devastating pain when they are in this trance.

The spear is an echo of the spear of the Roman soldier who stabbed Jesus as he was dying.  

St. Teresa founded the "hermit nuns" ( Discalced Carmelites) -- a group of nuns who locked themselves away from the world (sometimes alone in a monastic cell, with only a window with bars (or a grille) to talk to the outside world (others gave them food and drink and clothing on occasion.  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teresa_of_Avila)

She observed that there were (for her) seven "degrees" of meditation; the final one was a merging with the divine.


...this is kind of the "Cliff Notes" version.  I'm skipping over a LOT of things.

It's a beautiful statue; the expression on the angel's face is marvelous.

Thank you! There is more to this like manifestations and Siddhis are real, confining to just a trance state is a mistake. If it was just trances, nobody would have cared including her

[Sirius]

It's not really similar to chakras and the Qabala.  It's closer to "levels" in guided hypnotism (where you "walk down" or "into" a series of rooms...basically going deeper and deeper into a trance.

She'd be highly offended at the analogy... she was an extremely devout Christian and the things she experienced had been experienced by other Christian monastics and indeed she read all she could find on other Christian mystics to confirm that her visions were true.

I doubt she would have offended because we didn't share nomenclature. She would have blessed me I'm sure. Guided is how you do it...

I'm thankful for the help, but if you don't practice any of this stuff then don't criticize

[Byrd]

Thank you! There is more to this like manifestations and Siddhis are real, confining to just a trance state is a mistake. If it was just trances, nobody would have cared including her

It's not quite a trance state.  Religious ecstasy is different and is triggered by "mortification of the flesh" in the Christian saints.  In other words, they achieve this state through self-harm -- pushing their bodies to the limits with things like sleeping on hard beds, wearing very uncomfortable clothing (hair shirts), fasting, flagellation (by others) or self-flagellation, fasting, etc.  They welcomed suffering.

It was a very common practice in the early Church and you'll discover it's a common theme if you read up on the saints (there are over 10,000 of them: https://www.quora.com/How-many-saints-ar...lic-Church and they are patrons of all sorts of things. There's a patron saint of mad dogs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Sithney).)  The patron saint of television (one of the many Saint Catherines) was said to have accurate visions of distant people and things.

Ah, but ecstasies are different than just plain visions -- and a number of saints had ecstasies (St. Francis, for one) that left marks on their bodies (usually open wounds in the places where Jesus was wounded... called stigmata.  This was seen as a mark that their visions came from the divine.)

In Western European Catholic tradition, these visions were granted to people with a special connection to the Divine... and it was a source of great pride for a town (or a ruler) to have a hermit around.  People would come to the cell to ask advice or to have the hermit settle disputes.

There's still places in England that have an official hermit (who is given a stipend to live in a small hermit's cell and be a hermit.)


Ah, but I could ramble on about this for quite some time.  As you can probably tell, I've been studying this (and shamanism, etc) since the sixties.  And I love reading about the Catholic saints (I have quite a few that I really like.)

[Sirius]

It's not quite a trance state.  Religious ecstasy is different and is triggered by "mortification of the flesh" in the Christian saints.  In other words, they achieve this state through self-harm -- pushing their bodies to the limits with things like sleeping on hard beds, wearing very uncomfortable clothing (hair shirts), fasting, flagellation (by others) or self-flagellation, fasting, etc.  They welcomed suffering.

It was a very common practice in the early Church and you'll discover it's a common theme if you read up on the saints (there are over 10,000 of them: https://www.quora.com/How-many-saints-ar...lic-Church and they are patrons of all sorts of things. There's a patron saint of mad dogs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Sithney).)  The patron saint of television (one of the many Saint Catherines) was said to have accurate visions of distant people and things.

Ah, but ecstasies are different than just plain visions -- and a number of saints had ecstasies (St. Francis, for one) that left marks on their bodies (usually open wounds in the places where Jesus was wounded... called stigmata.  This was seen as a mark that their visions came from the divine.)

In Western European Catholic tradition, these visions were granted to people with a special connection to the Divine... and it was a source of great pride for a town (or a ruler) to have a hermit around.  People would come to the cell to ask advice or to have the hermit settle disputes.

There's still places in England that have an official hermit (who is given a stipend to live in a small hermit's cell and be a hermit.)


Ah, but I could ramble on about this for quite some time.  As you can probably tell, I've been studying this (and shamanism, etc) since the sixties.  And I love reading about the Catholic saints (I have quite a few that I really like.)

Oh my dear Byrd, was was, were were you really test me

Gratitude for the lessons