Somali fraud scandal

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Thoughts? 

We have a sizable population. Over 15k in the county... 9k in a single neighborhood. It is not the highest crime area, but certainly far from the lowest. Sizeable Eritrean and Ethiopian numbers mixed in too. 

And as a privilleged inherently racist white devil I can look at them through stereotypes and think: 

"You know, what's really amazing is how they can all come to California and become Uber drivers with a base model Prius."

That's the California scam, I think. Who needs welfare fraud when you can do legal gig work? 

"Why are you going this way?" 

"This is the way you take to the airport. "

"Dude, I fucking live here, and you just got on the busier inland freeway that adds 4 miles and 20 minutes. Your phone was even telling you to stay on the freeway we're on and you physically selected the other route." 

And then they get argumentative...

And I am just sitting there thinking, "I dont want to be racist, I dont like that i think this, but why the hell does every one of "you guys" do this? Are you culturally all natural used car salesmen or something?" 

And then you police yourself that "THEY ARE NOT representative of the East African immigrant community, but the Uber Driver community, and you've just been biased by the ones YOU'VE interacted with."

And I wish I could say I had greater interaction with them to change that opinion.

Welcome to America the dog eat dog world.

[putnam6]

And we are just talking about the money now, but behind it, every Somali immigrant was to be groomed to be a Democrat voter by thier handlers. They were continually pumped into the same districts and counties

[quintessentone]

And we are just talking about the money now, but behind it, every Somali immigrant was to be groomed to be a Democrat voter by thier handlers. They were continually pumped into the same districts and counties

How do you know they even bother to vote?

[putnam6]

For perspective, the numbers suggest 68000 Somalis in Minnesota are registered to vote, automatic voter registration with a Driver's license is a big hint for those with less triangley personalities  

Well, that and the 600 invalid registrations in the community,

Key Data Points

• Total Somali Population in Minnesota (2024): Approximately 107,000 people of Somali descent, representing about 2% of the state's total population. This includes both U.S.-born and foreign-born individuals. (Earlier estimates from 2022 placed it at around 82,000, showing growth due to secondary migration and births. )
  
• Citizenship Breakdown:
  • 58% are U.S.-born (automatic citizens).
    
  • 42% are foreign-born, of whom 87% are naturalized U.S. citizens.
    
  • Overall citizenship rate: ~96% (58% + (42% × 87%) ≈ 96.5%). 
    
• Voting-Age Adjustment: About 84% of the Somali population is age 5 or older (~90,000 people), and assuming a standard U.S. demographic distribution, roughly 75% of the total population is 18 or older (accounting for youth). This yields ~80,000 voting-age Somali Minnesotans.
  
• Registration Rate: Minnesota has an exceptionally high overall voter registration rate of ~90% among eligible adults (3.74 million registered out of 4.29 million eligible as of May 2025). Somali Americans are noted for even higher engagement, often exceeding the state average (up to 90% turnout in past elections, implying similar or higher registration). Applying a conservative 85-90% registration rate to eligible Somali citizens.
  

Calculation

• Eligible Somali citizens (18+): 107,000 × 96% × 75% ≈ 77,000.
  
• Estimated registered: 77,000 × 88% (midpoint of 85-90%) ≈ 68,000.
  

Metric
Value
Source Notes
Total Somali Population
107,000
2024 Census ACS 
U.S. Citizens
~103,000 (96%)
Census citizenship rates 
Voting-Age Citizens (18+)
~77,000
Adjusted for age demographics
Registered Voters
~68,000
88% registration rate, aligned with high Somali engagement 
Caveats and Context

• Range: A low-end estimate (80% registration) is ~62,000; high-end (95%) is ~73,000. This aligns with anecdotal reports of Somali voters influencing close races, like the 2024 presidential election where turnout in Somali-heavy precincts (e.g., Cedar-Riverside) was ~50-67% of eligible voters. 
  
• Eligibility Rules: To register in Minnesota, one must be a U.S. citizen, 18+ on Election Day, a state resident for 20+ days, and not currently incarcerated for a felony. Automatic voter registration (via driver's licenses since 2023) boosts access, but requires citizenship affirmation. 
  
• Challenges: Language barriers affect some (84.7% speak non-English languages, 34% with limited proficiency), but state resources in Somali help mitigate this. Recent fraud cases (~600 invalid registrations tied to Somali communities) are isolated and represent <1% of the estimated total. 
  
• Political Influence: Somali voters lean Democratic but showed shifts in 2024 (e.g., 23% Trump support in polls). They are concentrated in Hennepin and Ramsey counties (e.g., ~10,741 and 3,945 "other" registrations, potentially including many Somalis). 
  

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For perspective, the numbers suggest 68000 Somalis in Minnesota are registered to vote, automatic voter registration with a Driver's license is a big hint for those with less triangley personalities  

Well, that and the 600 invalid registrations in the community,

That doesn't indicate that they voted.

[putnam6]

That doesn't indicate that they voted.

 
Those caught were attempting voter fraud. Why risk getting caught registering to vote illegally if you have no intention of voting? 

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politic...ota-2ae047
 

3. Evidence of both mobilization and fracture in voter behavior
News coverage and community reporting show competing behavioral responses. Some Somali‑American voters and organizations have redoubled civic efforts—holding rallies, leveraging multilingual voter‑outreach materials, and pressing officials for accountability—while others express distrust of political actors and some individuals report choosing not to vote out of disillusionment [sup][8] [9] [10] [3][/sup]. Independent reporting before and during the 2025 municipal cycle documented Somali turnout as decisive in contests and showed both sustained voting and new divisions within the community [sup][11] [12][/sup].
4. Consequences for political representation and officeholders
Somali Americans already hold elected offices in Minnesota, including state legislative seats; those offices and officeholders have become focal points for both defense and criticism. Prominent Somali politicians publicly defended the community, and party organizations faced pressure over endorsements and intra‑party disputes—signs that the scandal affected not only voter sentiment but also how parties manage Somali political influence [sup][2] [13][/sup]. Available sources document revocations of endorsements and internal party frictions tied to campaign controversies [sup][13[/sup]

[Bootless]

Thoughts:

Hmmm,
So why didn't the dude working for  Manhattan Institute for Policy Research, a conservative think tank based in New York City, have Laura Ingraham's number on speed-dial?

I summarized the piece and called on President Trump to revoke Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for all Somalis in Minnesota.
 
Within hours, the president, who had been following the story, announced that he would revoke TPS for all Somali recipients. Then, over the Thanksgiving holiday, Trump raised the stakes with a blistering social media tirade that ripped into Somali fraudsters, accused Minnesota governor Tim Walz of mental deficiencies, and promised to stop all asylum cases and immigration from the Third World. This sequence of events turned the Minnesota fraud into the debate of the moment.

So local prosecutors are building a case, presumably lining up witnesses from the Somali community.

But

ICE agents will bust in, round up citizens, permanent residents, and TPS people who look like Somalis, and disappear them.

I think the local prosecutors may see this as screwing up their chances of getting solid convictions.

Good job Manhattan Institute for Policy Research and FOX News!!!

Plus:

The author of the article seems to be portraying himself as the mastermind pulling the strings of Asleep at the Helm Trump. He should be given a Cabinet position.

[SomeStupidName]

How do you know they even bother to vote?

their ballots were harvested and filled out for them the dumped in drop boxes this why we need to force in person with id voting.

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Those caught were attempting voter fraud. Why risk getting caught registering to vote illegally if you have no intention of voting? 

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politic...ota-2ae047
 

"Well, that and the 600 invalid registrations in the community"...

So how many of the invalid registrations tried to vote?

[putnam6]

"Well, that and the 600 invalid registrations in the community"...

So how many of the invalid registrations tried to vote?

I'd suggest offering your legal services to the defendants with such surefire reasoning and logic... FFS 


The 600 fraud cases are tied up in the ongoing larger fraud litigation as of now; it wasnt enough instances to change the results, which implies there were some used to vote and discovered later