Installed' COR Leaders.

[Karl12]

History is positively littered with warnings about 'installed' leaders and the complete unaccountability of their actions (usually genocidal).

Here's the installed and unaccountable leader of the 'EU' gushing about the 'Club Of Rome' which sees humanity as a cancer and literally wants to eradicate billions of people.

Don't know how long the video will be up but Fabian eugenicist George Bernard Shaw also pops up calling for 'death panels'.

[andy06shake]

History is positively littered with warnings about 'installed' leaders and the complete unaccountability of their actions (usually genocidal).

Here's the installed and unaccountable leader of the 'EU' gushing about the 'Club Of Rome' which sees humanity as a cancer and literally wants to eradicate billions of people.

Don't know how long the video will be up but Fabian eugenicist George Bernard Shaw also pops up calling for 'death panels'.



[Video: https://youtu.be/GcYacElDmy4]

Some of the people put forward for positions of power, where politics and leadership are concerned, are complete and utter clown shoes.
 
It would be silly to imagine there is nothing going on behind the proverbial curtain, selection-wise.

And that would be real power and money at play, if we’re honest,

as opposed to democracy in action, or the best person for the job being selected.

At the end of the day, democracy is a prison cell where we "choose" not to see the bars.

But nonetheless, the best system of governance devised.

[UltraBudgie]

At the end of the day, democracy is a prison cell where we "choose" not to see the bars.

But nonetheless, the best system of governance devised.

That is not "true" democracy, Scotsman¹.



As for what we have, I suppose the description that it is the "best" system is true, if you consider it to mean "best at leveraging asymmetric resource extraction into force projection to eliminate, subsume, contain, or curtail other potentially competing systems".

It is realpolitik², after all... a philosophy which would seem to have a fond place in the Club of Rome's heart, if they should have hearts and the capability for fondness.


¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
² politics based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations
³ I am adding these footnotes just to make putnam6 squint

[Maxmars]

All systems of human significance incorporate hierarchy within the framework... to model outcomes in a comprehensible way across the 'purpose' inherent within the systemic 'tools' it evokes.

Now, in some wildly hyperbolic sense... no 'leaders' simply "rise." They are all "placed."
Even the lore of ancient royalties and the subsequent 'political' mandates to follow, is full of leaders maneuvered, 'negotiated,' compromised, and stolen by people equally "placed" and inserted into the mix by some 'benefactor' or 'sponsor party.'

In the end some must choose to follow, presumably freely.
In essence it is they from or for whom, the 'choice' is made...

of course, the 'appearance' of a choice will suffice, won't it?
(Or maybe even a genuine choice between "appearances?"  
Oh yes... that's something they would consider clever.)

[k0rn]

I remember hearing something about this once.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1135489/fullcredits/

[UltraBudgie]

All systems of human significance incorporate hierarchy within the framework... to model outcomes in a comprehensible way across the 'purpose' inherent within the systemic 'tools' it evokes.

Ah! You have taken the step into thinking in terms of "systems change!"

http://www.clubofrome.org/wp-content/upl...ressed.pdf (32 page PDF)

If you’ve ever wondered why the universe operates like a giant Rube Goldberg machine—where every action, reaction, and inexplicable detour somehow connects—you’ve stumbled into the world of systems thinking. Buckle up, because this is where the magic (and occasional madness) happens.

The Anatomy of a System: Elements, Interactions, and Purpose

A system, as Donella Meadows might say if she were holding a Slinky and making dramatic hand gestures, is “a set of things—people, molecules, planets, opinions on oat milk—interconnected in such a way that they produce their own behavior over time.” In short: it’s a weird, self-perpetuating machine with three key ingredients:

Elements: These are the players on the field. In a football team, the elements are the players, the ball, the goalposts, and the fans
yelling questionable advice from the stands.

Interactions: These are the relationships between the elements. The players pass the ball, defend the goal, and occasionally tackle someone just for fun. The fans, meanwhile, influence the vibe with their chants and occasional popcorn-throwing.

Purpose: This is the "why" behind the system—the reason it exists and keeps chugging along. For a football game, it’s to win.

Now, here is where it gets interesting: a system’s stated purpose and its actual purpose can be two very different things. Take political parties, for example. They’re supposed to ensure everyone is represented and all voices are heard. Noble, right? But if you look at what they’re actually doing, the real purpose seems to be keeping the same people in power while expertly blocking new voices from joining the conversation. (Impressive, if frustrating.). Every system is relentlessly working toward its purpose—whether that purpose makes sense or not. Understanding what a system is really aiming for is one of the first steps in figuring out how to change it.

Mental Models (The Deepest Depths)
Ah, the hidden layer of the iceberg—the mental models. This is where the system’s beliefs, assumptions, and worldviews live. It’s also where real change begins, because when you shift the way people think about the system, you change everything else.

As you may have noticed, the capitalist system is pretty resilient. Despite discontent with the current economic system being widespread, it
seems hard to imagine a different reality. While revolt over it’s impact on the environment, our health and well-being, our work-life balance and growing inequality is something many of us feel, it still seems easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism. This is because capitalism is sustained by narratives, which are currently dominating in our societies and the way we view the world. Crucially, narratives of individualism and isolation. We are taught from early on that prosperity is only for the few, that we have to grind endlessly and compete for one of the limited spots in the sun - and that we do that best focused only on our own. But if capitalism is sustained by an ideology of individualism, community is it’s antidote.

Because the truth is, the planet we live on is abundant, and it’s natural richness is enough to feed, clothe and house everyone, when used mindfully and distributed fairly. And while the ‘survival of the fittest’ narrative prevails now, Darwin’s theory of evolution points out that it is togetherness that makes us go far: “those communities who include the greatest number of most sympathetic members would flourish best.”

Narratives: The Stories We Tell About the World
At the heart of storytelling lies the narrative: the grand, overarching story that shapes how we see the world. Narratives are sneaky little things—they’re everywhere, often so ingrained in our culture that we don’t even realize they’re there. They tell us what’s “normal,” what’s “possible,” and who the heroes and villains are.

For example, there’s the classic “progress is inevitable” narrative, which insists that humanity is always marching forward, one shiny gadget at a time.
Then there’s the “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” narrative, which conveniently ignores the fact that not everyone has boots. These stories don’t
just reflect reality—they shape it, influencing the systems we build and the choices we make within them.

The Connection to Paradigm Shifts
Here’s where things get interesting: narratives aren’t just passive background noise. They’re the foundations of mental models, which, as we’ve discussed, live deep within the iceberg of systems. And if you want to create meaningful, lasting change you’ve got to shift the narrative—reframe the story we’re all living in. Think of it like this: a paradigm is the script of a system. It’s the unspoken “rules” that govern what’s acceptable, what’s valuable, and what’s possible. By telling new stories, you’re not just editing the script—you’re flipping the whole production. Instead of another season of the same tired sitcom, you’re pitching a blockbuster that reimagines the genre entirely.

Control the systems, control the world!
Understand the dynamics of system change to create a better world!

[ReturnofBroccoli]

I want to believe the conspiracy but then I look at AOC and wonder who the fuck would put that there?

[andy06shake]

That is not "true" democracy, Scotsman¹.



As for what we have, I suppose the description that it is the "best" system is true, if you consider it to mean "best at leveraging asymmetric resource extraction into force projection to eliminate, subsume, contain, or curtail other potentially competing systems".

It is realpolitik², after all... a philosophy which would seem to have a fond place in the Club of Rome's heart, if they should have hearts and the capability for fondness.


¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
² politics based on practical rather than moral or ideological considerations
³ I am adding these footnotes just to make putnam6 squint

Which "we"?

74 countries are classified as democracies.

If you can come up with a better system of governance, im all ears. 

Politics will always be driven by practical goals like power, security, and national interest.

As opposed to moral principles or ideology.