Scottish Girl gonna' start a revolution!

[andy06shake]

Still have to dehumanize.

So.  Did a few mission trips to New Orleans.  Two were a year apart.

The first trip, a couple of young kids wanted to explore one of the abandoned home left from the hurricane.  They found  dead homeless man.  That messed with them.  Makes you wonder what kids on the ward see each day.

All the homes had bars over the windows and metal gates over the doors.  

The second trip, they were finishing up the first house we worked on.  Trying to get the 80 year old widow in her home.  The first AC unit was stripped of copper.  The second AC with a cage had the cage cut and was again stripped of copper.  They finally had to place the AC unit on the roof.  Because real people suffering from abuse, neglect, and addiction were not in their right minds. Like a person lacking empathy because of psychosis or being a bigot.

The lady was kind.  But that lady was tough and resilient in ways my late grandmother never had to be to live in the ward. My late grandmother would have never called that 80 year old widow in New Orleans a lady. And even something equivalent to a Ned.

You remind me of my judgmental late grandmother that wanted to cling to some imaginary class system.

And you remind me of someone who likes to substitute anecdotes for actual cold, hard facts, and evidence.

Someone who refuses to accept reality, and likes to sugarcoat situations, introduce silly hypotheticals, and make excuses for people who are clearly in the wrong, even in the face of the overwhelming evidence. 

I've been that little girl, in the form of a boy, many moons ago, and far worse, and i understand that the road she is heading down only leads to pain, misery, and ultimately incarceration.

She can either learn the easy way, or the hard way.

Which one do you think she will choose, as unfortunate as the case may be?

[UltraBudgie]

In the context someone kept claiming he was filming for “evidence”.  Was reassured of that many times.  And yet the video ended up on social media, and I’m guessing therefore not handed over as actual evidence to law enforcement as part of an actual investigation.  

And it is fact, if the video was never posted online, it would never have became a viral mess.

I am confused by how you keep implying that one can't make copies of videos. Like if you post it on social media you can't also give a copy to police? Or if you give it to police you can't also post it on social media? You can, as far as I know. It is confusing.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

In the context someone kept claiming he was filming for “evidence”.  Was reassured of that many times.  And yet the video ended up on social media, and I’m guessing therefore not handed over as actual evidence to law enforcement as part of an actual investigation.  

And it is fact, if the video was never posted online, it would never have became a viral mess.

What im saying is, you keep talking about how this girl is a kid but this 21 year old is still just a boy id wager anyone under 30 is technically "just a kid" in their mentality mostly despite "legal age" set by a government body they dont automatically wake up with a big boy state of mind one day and say "time to be men". If youre going to defend children defend them all. Thats it.

[andy06shake]

I am confused by how you keep implying that one can't make copies of videos. Like if you post it on social media you can't also give a copy to police? Or if you give it to police you can't also post it on social media? You can, as far as I know. It is confusing.

When the Police arrived on the scene, responding to whoever called them.

Which could quite possibly have been the fellow in question or his partner.

They would have asked to view, and for a copy of the video taken, which is standard procedure in this day of age.

They would then have used the evidence in conjunction with any shop and/or street CCTV there also happened to be along with any corroborating witness statements, before making the arrest.

[WallFlowerActive]

I am confused by how you keep implying that one can't make copies of videos. Like if you post it on social media you can't also give a copy to police? Or if you give it to police you can't also post it on social media? You can, as far as I know. It is confusing.

I’m confused how a video that is supposed to be handed over to law enforcement for an official investigation ends up posted online.  That’s not how investigations and evidence works.  If the video was recorded as “evidence” to hand over to law enforcement then a copy would have to be “leaked” to be posted.  Unless officially released by the people overseeing the case.  Posting something as evidence of an investigation, especially where the identities of minors are being protected, then going on to post it equates to ”leaking” and interfering with an investigation.  

If the video was part of the case as evidence held by law enforcement, especially with minors involved for an ongoing official investigation.  What would you have to do to get the video from law enforcement and be able to post it on social media?  You think the video is going to be released.

If the video is provided as evidence and part of an ongoing investigation, you can’t just release a copy to the internet even if it was original yours.

Have the owners from the business that captured the security video posted “their” video online on their social media? Why?  It probably go viral for them.

[WallFlowerActive]

And you remind me of someone

Why?  Because young girl has pretty much universal meaning. Doesn’t mean they are good or bad. Where Ned is meaningless to me other it’s clearly you trying to class and dehumanize the individual.

[Kurokage]

I’m confused how a video that is supposed to be handed over to law enforcement for an official investigation ends up posted online.  That’s not how investigations and evidence works.  If the video was recorded as “evidence” to hand over to law enforcement then it would have to be “leaked” to be posted.  Posting something as evidence of an investigation, especially where the identities of minors are being protected, then going on to post it equates to ”leaking” and interfering with an investigation.  

If the video was part of the case as evidence held by law enforcement, especially with minors involved for an ongoing official investigation.  What would you have to do to get the video from law enforcement and be able to post it on social media?  You think the video is going to be released.

If the video is provided as evidence and part of an ongoing investigation, you can’t just release a copy to the internet even if it was original yours.

Have the owners from the business that capture the security video posted “their” video online on their social media? Why?  It probably go viral for them.

They didn't confiscate his phone for the video evidence! They would ask to see said video, and if relevant asked for a copy.  If he had YouTube on phone, he could of posted it any time after the incident.

May I ask how old you are, and do you use a mobile phone? Anyone 30 and under live on social media and are constantly posting to TikTok, Youtube and FaceBook. GenZ post what they're drinking, eating, watching, it's an addiction for them.

[andy06shake]

Why?  Because young girl has pretty much universal meaning. Doesn’t mean they are good or bad. Where Ned is meaningless to me other it’s clearly you trying to class and dehumanize the individual.

Kicking about parks with hatchets and knives, racially abusing people, is indeed uneducated and delinquent, that's why.

I think you may find she shows us her class and dehumanizes herself both in the video evidence and the TikToks provided.

A spade is a spade, even if you wish to call it a shovel, and that's a non-educated delinquent, plain and simple.

You're trying to justify and make an excuse for the unjustifiable. 

Just because she does not know any better does not make it acceptable.

And if anything, that's her parents are to blame more than anything else.

But please tell us all how she's had a tough life, growing up in a tough area, having to do tough things to survive.  LoL 

And an area i may add, you obviously know nothing about, the same as the people, class, laws, and Police.

You would rather try and demonise some perfectly legal immigrant, only trying to keep himself right, by filming a racially motivated attack, and without a shred of evidence to do so i may add.

Again, watch the TikTok, and then tell us all she's not a ned proud of the crimes she commits by posting them to social media.

[midicon]

Why?  Because young girl has pretty much universal meaning. Doesn’t mean they are good or bad. Where Ned is meaningless to me other it’s clearly you trying to class and dehumanize the individual.

A 'ned' is a term we use in Scotland for a non educated delinquent.

They mostly hang around in groups and are always up to no good.

I'm sure most countries have an equivalent term for those types.

[UltraBudgie]

a racially motivated attack

is it established that the altercation was racially motivated? i haven't seen any evidence of that.

lots of evidence that narratives around the event are racially motivated however.