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(09-02-2025, 10:23 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Too bad she couldn’t come to the states and be apart of the after school program I volunteer at. I could get to know the individual without your stereotyping and dehumanizing her.
Yeah, that's right, America will fix her. LoL
Saying what you see is not stereotyping, again, a spade is a spade, and that's a ned.
Ticking all the boxes you see, colouring in all the lines.
If you wish to get to know her, why dont you try her TikTok?
I mean, that would not be weird at all, would it.
You could comment on the crimes you see her and her friends commit.
And tell her how it's not her fault, it's just the poor area she hails from, full of social deprivation, that causes her to act in the manner she chooses.
Full of bad brown people, who recorded her committing other serious crimes.
Or you could always donate to her growing crowdfunding.
The choice after all, is your own.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-02-2025, 10:30 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Yeah, that's right, America will fix her. LoL
Quote where I posed that?
the context and actual post.
Too bad she couldn’t come to the states and be apart of the after school program I volunteer at. I could get to know the individual without your stereotyping and dehumanizing her.
It’s right there in the quote you used.
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(09-02-2025, 10:30 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Yeah, that's right, America will fix her. LoL
rather than focusing on the infeasibility of "fixing" a particular individual, i think it's more about acknowledging that perhaps her environment and social circumstance "broke" her, and that isn't an intrinsic fault of her own, and that perhaps all countries could do a better job of providing underprivileged children opportunities and support in avoiding such spirals into "ned-ness".
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(09-02-2025, 10:30 AM)andy06shake Wrote: If you wish to get to know her, why dont you try her TikTok?
I mean, that would not be weird at all, would it.
You could comment on the crimes you see her and her friends commit.
And tell her how it's not her fault, it's just the poor area she hails from, full of social deprivation, that causes her to act in the manner she chooses.
Full of bad brown people, who recorded her committing other serious crimes.
Or you could always donate to her growing crowdfunding.
The choice after all, is your own. 
Boy. That seems like it needs reporting for violating some community standards.
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(09-02-2025, 10:35 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Quote where I posed that?
the context and actual post.
Too bad she couldn’t come to the states and be apart of the after school program I volunteer at. I could get to know the individual without your stereotyping and dehumanizing her.
It’s right there in the quote you used.
That's just silly lol. How many are you going to take. We have neds everywhere. They don't want to go to after school programs. They want to drink Buckfast and get mad wae it.
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(09-02-2025, 10:35 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: rather than focusing on the infeasibility of "fixing" a particular individual, i think it's more about acknowledging that perhaps her environment and social circumstance "broke" her, and that isn't an intrinsic fault of her own, and that perhaps all countries could do a better job of providing underprivileged children opportunities and support in avoiding such spirals into "ned-ness".
You're kind of hitting the nail on the head.
That's how kids choose to act when you close down all the community centres and projects.
And leave them to their own devices with nothing to do but each other.
Just a fact.
But it does not justify jumping around parks armed to the teeth with murder weapons UltraBudgie.
Because it all ends in tears when they stab one another, or somebody else, and they end up dead.
Two lives are lost then, they go to jail for a very long time, and the other poor sod ceases to exist.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-02-2025, 09:38 AM)midicon Wrote: A 'ned' is a term we use in Scotland for a non educated delinquent.
They mostly hang around in groups and are always up to no good.
I'm sure most countries have an equivalent term for those types.
Then I’ll post again.
(09-02-2025, 06:28 AM)andy06shake Wrote: She is a complete and utter ned at 12 years old, no less.
Still have to dehumanize.
So. Did a few mission trips to New Orleans. Two were a year apart.
The first trip, a couple of young kids from our group wanted to explore one of the abandoned home left from the hurricane. They found a dead homeless man. That messed with them. Makes you wonder what kids in the ward see each day if that was found by chance.
Added. The ward was more of a combat zone with casualties than what I would call a neighborhood.
All the homes had bars over the windows and metal gates over the doors.
The second trip, they were finishing up the first house we worked on. Trying to get the 80 year old widow in her home. The first AC unit was stripped of copper. The second AC with a cage had the cage cut and was again stripped of copper. They finally had to place the AC unit on the roof. Because real people suffering from abuse, neglect, and addiction were not in their right minds. Like a person lacking empathy because of psychosis or being a bigot. But self induced.
The lady was kind. But that lady was tough and resilient in ways my late grandmother never had to be to live in the ward. My late grandmother would have never called that 80 year old widow in New Orleans a lady. And even something equivalent to a Ned.
You remind me of my judgmental late grandmother that wanted to cling to some imaginary class system.
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(09-02-2025, 10:41 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Boy. That seems like it needs reporting for violating some community standards.
I kind of feel the same way about demonizing and questioning a person's motivations because they choose to film a racially motivated attack directed at their person.
I would also point out that calling people "boy" also ticks the same box.
Im simply trying to explain to you why the person in question is a 12-year-old ned.
You're the one who refuses to accept the facts and now somehow imagines bringing the kid to America to attend your camp would somehow fix her problems.
End of the day, we are 40+ pages deep in a thread where it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the little girl was the one in the wrong and breaking the law.
I dont think we are going to see eye to eye on the subject WallFlowerActive.
If I've somehow offended your sensibilities, i do apologise, but i dont think im the one in the wrong.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(09-02-2025, 10:49 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I kind of feel the same way
You can report me. I don’t have a button to report you even though you are in the debate. You have abused power in a way I have no ability to do.
I understand why people post what they do about this site.
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(09-02-2025, 10:35 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Quote where I posed that?
the context and actual post.
Too bad she couldn’t come to the states and be apart of the after school program I volunteer at. I could get to know the individual without your stereotyping and dehumanizing her.
It’s right there in the quote you used.
"The states" is America.
Context is rather clear.
As is your desire for her to somehow attend your "after-school program."
I mean, you're answering your own questions now, so....
And i dont think taking her away from where she hails from, or her family and friends, would help much, but you're entitled to your opinion.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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