Retiree That Legally Defended Himself Sentenced to Prison in New York

[ArMaP]

Just curious.

How did a legal matter of self-defense in a public place warrant a search of the victims private residence?

Apparently, the gun he used in self defence was unlicensed, and that started the whole thing.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/02/nyc-man-wh...n-charges/

[Oldcarpy2]

Apparently, the gun he used in self defence was unlicensed, and that started the whole thing.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/02/nyc-man-wh...n-charges/

That explains it.

[Oldcarpy2]

New York politicians and DA's have a track record of believing in "negative rights".

Retired 67-year old goes to prison after legally defending himself

That's right, after what was a clear case of self-defense, with a legal handgun against a career violent criminal, the New York DA's office indicted, tried, secured a conviction and sent a retiree to prison for 4 years.

The fearmongering and emotional pleading of the corrupt DA and complicit media is nauseating.

DA Press Release

Since the POS DA couldn't charge Charles Foehner in the self defense shooting of career criminal Cody Gonzalez, they managed to secure a search warrant for Foehner's private residence. Once there, it was discovered that Ol' Charley had the audacity to have a collection of firearms that he hadn't gone thru the trouble and expense to register and license, in violation of New Yorks unconstitutional anti-2A gun control laws.

So it seems that the gun he used in self defense was unlicensed and illegal.

If ICE were involved and shot him you'd probably be applauding them.

[PorkChop96]

If ICE were involved and shot him you'd probably be applauding them.

Well, that didn't take long for somebody to go full retard 


For the billionth time, to those of you who don't want to see reality, nobody here is "applauding the cops" for shooting Pretti. 


Is this man stupid for carrying and using an unregistered firearm to stop a crime, absolutely. Am I glad that there is one less criminal on the street because of this man, absolutely. Should this man be able to get this latest conviction thrown out, for sure. The search of his residence had nothing to do with the act for which he was on trial for.

[Moon68]

So it seems that the gun he used in self defense was unlicensed and illegal.

If ICE were involved and shot him you'd probably be applauding them.

So then you apparently think this elderly man, whom had never had a run in with the law, should have just let himself be robbed and assaulted instead of defending himself.

I started this thread in an attempt to provoke thoughtful discussion on the meaning of self defense, overburdensome New York gun regulations and how some cities will let a career criminal off the hook repeatedly while seemingly going way outside of the scope of an investigation to send an otherwise everyman to prison.

Your attempt at a moral equivalence between these two incidents is vapid and obtuse. Relish your delusions of adequacy.

[Oldcarpy2]

So then you apparently think this elderly man, whom had never had a run in with the law, should have just let himself be robbed and assaulted instead of defending himself.

I started this thread in an attempt to provoke thoughtful discussion on the meaning of self defense, overburdensome New York gun regulations and how some cities will let a career criminal off the hook repeatedly while seemingly going way outside of the scope of an investigation to send an otherwise everyman to prison.

Your attempt at a moral equivalence between these two incidents is vapid and obtuse. Relish your delusions of adequacy.

I think nothing of the sort.



He was entitled to defend himself.

Obviously.

But he used an unlicensed forearm to do so.

And because of this his property was searched and a massive cache of illegally held firearms, enough to start a small War, was found.

He broke the law and was dealt with accordingly.

You do support law enforcement Officers and the Courts enforcing your laws, don't you?

But puff your cheeks and have a pop at me....

[PorkChop96]

 massive cache of illegally held firearms, enough to start a small War, was found.

The problem is you're serious with that statement.....

[Moon68]

I think nothing of the sort.



He was entitled to defend himself.

Obviously.

But he used an unlicensed forearm to do so.

And because of this his property was searched and a massive cache of illegally held firearms, enough to start a small War, was found.

He broke the law and was dealt with accordingly.

You do support law enforcement Officers and the Courts enforcing your laws, don't you?

But puff your cheeks and have a pop at me....

I'm more concerned with Courts enforcing and upholding the Constitution, you know, the Law of the Land. New York has oppressive, overburdensome and unconstitutional gun laws used to make criminals of otherwise normal, average everyday citizens while letting career criminals walk free time and again.

[Oldcarpy2]

Well, that didn't take long for somebody to go full retard 


For the billionth time, to those of you who don't want to see reality, nobody here is "applauding the cops" for shooting Pretti. 


Is this man stupid for carrying and using an unregistered firearm to stop a crime, absolutely. Am I glad that there is one less criminal on the street because of this man, absolutely. Should this man be able to get this latest conviction thrown out, for sure. The search of his residence had nothing to do with the act for which he was on trial for.

Apart from possessing and using an illegal firearm, that is.

Why should he have his conviction "thrown out"?

He pleaded guilty, you know.

"Full retard"?!!!

Charming.

[Oldcarpy2]

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The problem is you're serious with that statement.....

By any standard, it was a massive cache of weapons.  No?