Rep. Eric Burlison: 2 sources say Tic Tac is Lockheed

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I always fancied that Fravor being sent out to the rendezvous point was a sort of set up. He described a 'sea mount' effect on the surface as he arrived, which might have been the submarine submerging after releasing the Tic Tac.

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Here is video on X: Video link

confirms my bias that these things are ours but what do you think?

this disinfo?

recovered tech?

I think the tic tak and orbs are ours.

I suspect that the 2008 incident in Needles, CA might be related to all this.  Recall that on May 14 of that year, at around 3:30 in the morning, a local resident living on a houseboat on the Colorado river saw a glowing blue-green object fly in from the north and crash on the riverbank on the California side of the river with a thud.  He described it as a cylinder, which I suppose could be interpreted to be a tic-tac shape.  Within less than 20 minutes what he described as a "sky crane" type helicopter arrived on the scene with a recovery team, hooked the object up to a sling, and flew away with it.  A true Sky Crane helicopter (CH-54) is no longer in production and I believe that all the remaining flyable units are assigned to wildfire fighting organizations, so I think it was probably a CH-53.  I'm pretty sure all CH-53s in the US are owned by the US Navy or Marines, so it pretty much had to be a government-run recovery team. The fact that they were able to arrive on the scene so quickly means that they must have been tracking it and knew approximately where it was going to go down.  It also means they had to be stationed relatively close by (Edwards AFB? Groom Lake? Marine Core Air Station Yuma?).  The fact that they were able to just swoop in, attach a sling to it, and fly away means that they knew ahead of time how much it would weigh, and that it would be within the cargo weight limit of a CH-53. It clearly was one of ours, and clearly not a conventional aircraft.  I think it was an ARV. This was about 4 years after the Tic-Tac UFO encounter with the Nimitz Strike Group.

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Now Coulthart being told China has same tech and New Jersey was China showing off they have this tech also: Video on x

Ross Coulthart says part of the New Jersey drone incursions were linked to China. [Image: https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f632.svg] They’re flying over U.S. airspace and may have cracked electrogravitic technology.

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I would not be too quick to believe that these craft are, in any way, examples of "reversed engineered extraterrestrial technology".

In fact, I would go so far as to suggest that the technology involved is not even that advanced,, to say the least, "exotic".

Merely compilations of existing technologies, updated, certainly with modern materials to be sure, deployed in "out-of-the-box" vehicles.


As an exercise, think about how you might duplicate the form, function, and approximate performance of something like one of those Tic-tacs using our available technology. Be creative!

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You know, it won't be too long now until someone decides this is
what the media is aching to call "disclosure."

Sorry... gagging my inner cynic now.

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Let's not forget that the F117 was flying in the EARLY 80's.   Public disclosure was when?

My personal belief is that the Nimitz/Gimball footage and event(s) were simly "show-offs".  I feel the same about the Phoenix lights.   Doesn't necessarily mean a massive craft a mile long etc.   I think it was a demo for some tech they've been sitting on.

One of you guys also shared a video of a Thunderbird pilot recallling some sightings he'd had of unexplainable craft that buzzed him while on the Nellis range.  
Guess what else is out there on the Nellis range.
Also remember what was witnessed out that way, as a cheduled sighting (Lazar) when peoiple observed stuff moving in wierd directons on a presubscribed Tuesady night, because "that's when they flew them"

All of the evidence for many of these events is out there that points to this stuff being "ours".  Whether we created it or not is the biggest question IMO

[Bakodiver]

A Tic Tac has been seen by people I know in the vicinity of the Ronald Reagan missile testing range at Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands.  There was also a strange recovery operation that took place in the Marshall Islands about 10 years ago.  3 special forces looking guys flew into the capital city and rented a boat for a purported trip to a nearby atoll.  They then took the boat to a different atoll, played cat and mouse with the local police for a couple of days, then returned to the capital, where they were promptly arrested.  One of the team of 3 men was missing, indicating that they had rendevoued with another vessel.  The United States ambassador sprung the 2 remaining men out of jail and they flew out on the next commercial flight.  They abandoned hookah diving gear, underwater metal detectors, and paramilitary gear in the rented boat.

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As an exercise, think about how you might duplicate the form, function, and approximate performance of something like one of those Tic-tacs using our available technology. Be creative!

I'm a professional aerospace engineer (retired), having been educated in one of the finest aerospace engineering graduate schools on the planet.  I've thought about that very question for many, many years.  The only way to duplicate the approximate performance of the Tic-Tacs is by gravity control, and they don't teach that in grad school. Paul Hill (among other aerospace engineers) figured this out decades ago.  That is the creative answer.

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 The only way to duplicate the approximate performance of the Tic-Tacs is by gravity control, and they don't teach that in grad school.

may i just add... not only control a gravity, one has to control a vessel's mass. antigravity alone will still imply a vessel has mass, only being pulled upwards. Inertia will still be present...no 5000G acceleration.

[Mantiss2021]

I'm a professional aerospace engineer (retired), having been educated in one of the finest aerospace engineering graduate schools on the planet.  I've thought about that very question for many, many years.  The only way to duplicate the approximate performance of the Tic-Tacs is by gravity control, and they don't teach that in grad school. Paul Hill (among other aerospace engineers) figured this out decades ago.  That is the creative answer.

The "only" way?


Gravity governs the "up and down", true.  But submarines, in their element, manage to rise and dive without any form of "gravity control" beyond simple buoyancy.  The atmosphere is just a less dense liquid sea.

Coincidence that it appears that the Navy seems to play a significant role related to many of these sightings?


Materials science has made great advances over the years, hasn't it?

Strong, yet lightweight (ie. low mass) is the "Golden Fleece".