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I found this in the Epstein files.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/Da...165439.pdf
Im not sure what to make of it. I went on to find another disturbing communication from the same guy - Albert Venczel, dated 2025.
I thought about the newest mass shooting that happened in Canada. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/7-ki...25515.html.
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(02-11-2026, 06:41 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: She had no intention of answering questions or providing clarity
Her strategy was to run out the clock with non-answers and insults
It was truly a mask off moment.
Anyone who's been trying to be honest about the state of affairs has seen Attorney Generals and FBI Directors in the past be bias and political.
But under oath evading questions, calling people the most hyperbolic political names and even deflecting to policies that aren't part of your job (the stock market hit records) is just so blatant and telling about where we are as a country. It's just devolving so fast, and I truly don't see how we come back from it with a healthy minority vehemently defending it.
The wildest part for me is seeing how many got turned from the question authority hold out in society. I think that is relevant here because many of us came from ATS. I took part in wanting heads to roll when Hillary's emails got leaked. I think there was clear intent to evade FOIA by setting up an email server she had full custody of. I think we should make examples out of politicians who believe they are above transparency. I don't expect to be privy to any and all communication by people with the highest clearance... But I sure as hell expect it to be available to review by the checks and balances the founding fathers put in place to protect ourselves from an out of control small group of people... And I sure as shit want our government communication to be considered the most secure. After all, she got hacked.
But we did end up seeing the emails, and people read into other crimes. Personally, I think the one she clearly committed was severe enough to disqualify her from holding office, yet now many of the crimes she was accused of are pretty clear to have happened. Many to the most extreme degree like trafficking among elites, or at the very least knowledge without action of it, which is a hair away from just as bad. Yet now many of the same original people who questioned the state of affairs became the most vehement defenders of the status quo the second there is a huge trove of evidence that could implicate several people going back several administrations at middle and high levels.
Better hope the young people wake up, because the millennials and older haven't just dropped the ball, they lost it.
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(02-11-2026, 06:43 PM)chr0naut Wrote: A couple of victims have said that as far as they knew, Trump was not involved in criminal acts with them. That does not clear Trump of all doubt.
There have been at least two alleged victims who have accused Trump directly of paedophilic acts and several who were witnesses that have accused Trump of being present in the close vicinity, and of probably being aware that paedophilic sexual assault was occurring.
I do not doubt that ...
it's different if it's a tip or as opposed to testimony that can be questioned, vetted, and verified.
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(02-11-2026, 07:06 PM)putnam6 Wrote: I do not doubt that ...
it's different if it's a tip or as opposed to testimony that can be questioned, vetted, and verified.
As I understand it, one complainant twice attempted to initiate court proceedings against Trump, but withdrew both times.
Others gave evidence under oath, or via affidavit.
Two non-victims gave evidence to reporters and to police (who were holding them for other crimes).
Virginia Giuffre, although she said that Donald Trump never assaulted her, did confirm that Trump was 'in the picture' with Epstein after the time that Trump had claimed to have cut all ties with Epstein (i.e. after the specific time when Trump alleged that Maxwell allegedly 'poached' Giuffre from Mar-a-Lago).
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(02-11-2026, 07:04 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: It was truly a mask off moment.
Anyone who's been trying to be honest about the state of affairs has seen Attorney Generals and FBI Directors in the past be bias and political.
But under oath evading questions, calling people the most hyperbolic political names and even deflecting to policies that aren't part of your job (the stock market hit records) is just so blatant and telling about where we are as a country. It's just devolving so fast, and I truly don't see how we come back from it with a healthy minority vehemently defending it.
The wildest part for me is seeing how many got turned from the question authority hold out in society. I think that is relevant here because many of us came from ATS. I took part in wanting heads to roll when Hillary's emails got leaked. I think there was clear intent to evade FOIA by setting up an email server she had full custody of. I think we should make examples out of politicians who believe they are above transparency. I don't expect to be privy to any and all communication by people with the highest clearance... But I sure as hell expect it to be available to review by the checks and balances the founding fathers put in place to protect ourselves from an out of control small group of people... And I sure as shit want our government communication to be considered the most secure. After all, she got hacked.
But we did end up seeing the emails, and people read into other crimes. Personally, I think the one she clearly committed was severe enough to disqualify her from holding office, yet now many of the crimes she was accused of are pretty clear to have happened. Many to the most extreme degree like trafficking among elites, or at the very least knowledge without action of it, which is a hair away from just as bad. Yet now many of the same original people who questioned the state of affairs became the most vehement defenders of the status quo the second there is a huge trove of evidence that could implicate several people going back several administrations at middle and high levels.
Better hope the young people wake up, because the millennials and older haven't just dropped the ball, they lost it.
Both sides of the political divide appear to have descended into cult ritual
The destruction is complete
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02-11-2026, 07:48 PM
This post was last modified: 02-11-2026, 07:51 PM by putnam6. 
(02-11-2026, 07:01 PM)Caligurl Wrote: I found this in the Epstein files.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/Da...165439.pdf
Im not sure what to make of it. I went on to find another disturbing communication from the same guy - Albert Venczel, dated 2025.
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/8vlEvgj.png]
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/L7RAl5m.png]
I thought about the newest mass shooting that happened in Canada. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/7-ki...25515.html.
An aspect or 2 reminds me of Minority Report with The Men who Stare at Goats with a smidgen of the Matrix
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02-11-2026, 09:10 PM
This post was last modified: 02-11-2026, 09:17 PM by UltraBudgie. 
(02-11-2026, 07:41 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: The destruction is complete
Edit: Eh, never mind.
I'll just interpret this as referring to the level of political discourse and pretense of a moral high ground, and not disagree.
Let be be finale of seem.
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(02-11-2026, 09:10 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Edit: Eh, never mind.
I'll just interpret this as referring to the level of political discourse and pretense of a moral high ground, and not disagree.
Let be be finale of seem.
You are welcome to interpret however you like
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(02-11-2026, 10:33 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: You are welcome to interpret however you like
Yeah, I know. But since you mention it, could you go into a little more expanation of what you meant? Destruction of what? Not like there aren't multiple answers, I imagine, but I'm curious now.
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