Release All Files! - Part 1

[UltraBudgie]

It is only in the last 50 years that we changed the age of consent beyond natural instinct, which is closer to 15. And i think it shows. 

There is a distinction between attraction to pre and post pubescence. They have to be fertile and look fertile. The Darwinian hunting of the flesh. 

i think we are collectively kidding ourselves as a species with an abstract morality, and trying to force standards that conflict with natural desire. 

Oh no you're only a post or two away from making the hebephilie/ephebophile/pedophile distinction, aren't you?

Should I just point out now what the age of consent in Germany and Israel are, or do you want to do that?

Beyond your focus on kids, though, you are right about hypocritical American prurience. Have you read what passes for women's literature these days?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffvRhsViyIQ

[cherokeetroy]

No one's pure
Cultures that exploit children are disgusting 

And we should still demand accountability from the people who govern us

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Oh no you're only a post or two away from making the hebephilie/ephebophile/pedophile distinction, aren't you?

I didnt need to if the point carried without it. 

But yes, that's the point.  And whichever term applies to statutory considerations. Hebephilia, if that is the 14 through 17 one, has been proven to be more common than not.  

The point should be made.  It needs to made when we the court of public opinion runs these lists of people that were attracted 16 and 17 year olds. 

It's a stone that needs to acknowledge what lies internally before it launches itself at whats external. 

If it comes down to an age label and the morality of what society says more than what their brain actually says, it calls out the possible presense of a collective defense mechanism.

The men in the study hesitated. They thought longer. They showed different brain reactions associated with deception.

Because publicly admitting you find high school girls attractive might cause that far greater social defense mechanism to come after you. 

And who would want to do that to themselves or let that be known?

[cherokeetroy]

This issue isn't about attraction 
It's not about casting judgment on people who are mirroring our own inner battles 

It's about the exploitation and physical/mental abuse of human beings 
Specifically when that exploitation and abuse breaks laws

[ANNEE]

DOJ LATE AT NIGHT FILING

NEW YORK (AP) — Manhattan’s top federal prosecutor said Friday that a judge lacks the authority to appoint a neutral expert to oversee the public release of documents in the sex trafficking probe of financier Jeffrey Epstein and British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell.
 
Judge Paul A. Engelmayer was told in a letter signed by U.S. Attorney Jay Clayton that he must reject a request this week by the congressional cosponsors of the Epstein Files Transparency Act to appoint a neutral expert.

Justice Department urges a judge to reject a request from US Reps on the release of Epstein files | AP News

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

This issue isn't about attraction 
It's not about casting judgment on people who are mirroring our own inner battles 

It's about the exploitation and physical/mental abuse of human beings 
Specifically when that exploitation and abuse breaks laws

And the prick is now dead.
The evil island is dead. 
He was suicided by the MANY MANY MANY predominately (but not exclusively) male interests that didn't want their names getting dropped. (I'm guessing)

Now we can obsess over every last salacious detail of who didn't care they were screwing exploited and damaged teenage girls. 

And when people try to focus me on the abuse he got away with, it feels like a directed distraction. A rapey version of illegals raping people. Or ICE killing people for the left. Something to comment on with an expected veneer of condemnation.  It's not like he WAS the industry.  

While I empathetically feel for the damaged girls of traumatic upbringing that turn into walking examples of self-destruction and seeking abuse, the pimp that exploits the broken is not the problem... He's a Trauma Capitalist with clients.  Epstein was a trauma capitalist with A-List clients. And not the first nor last. 

Its made like he used the abducted ones Sina Loa sells into slavery. which is different thing entirely, but it gets lumped together. 

He was Heidi Flyce with an Island specializing in girls 2 years younger. Recruiting girls with money or glamor.  Is there really much difference is the willingness of girls to work for Heidi at 19 and Jeffery at 16? Or anyone at any age? 

Same base of "girls being exploited."

And not always exploited. The regulated ones dont seem too torn up. Like Reno or outside Clark County. Maybe that's a solution? Make a government agency the pimp. 

There will always be pimps, whores, and johns.  Always be men wanting sex with young girls. Were kidding ourselves with a distraction-o-pandering on Epstein. 

Losing our shit over who is on the Epstein list doesn't stop that. It doesn't stop the root of what leads to these girls to be exploited.  Nothing will. 

Just a noteworthy pimp to obsess over tapping the pulse of the preexisting sex industry.  It is blown up into this conspiracy of pervasive trafficking to focus on.  

And it does all this while there are local underage teenage prostitutes walking that street with the strip clubs by the military base every night. With equally predatory pimps. Everywhere there are military bases and predatory pimps. 

It seems like such a hill to proudly die on it has to be partially a psychological projection.

[cherokeetroy]

And the prick is now dead.
The evil island is dead. 
He was suicided by the MANY MANY MANY predominately (but not exclusively) male interests that didn't want their names getting dropped. (I'm guessing)

Now we can obsess over every last salacious detail of who didn't care they were screwing exploited and damaged teenage girls. 

And when people try to focus me on the abuse he got away with, it feels like a directed distraction. Something to comment on with an expected veneer of condemnation.  It's not like he WAS the industry.  

While I empathetically feel for the damaged girls of traumatic upbringing that turn into walking examples of self-destruction and seeking abuse, the pimp that exploits the broken is not the problem... He's a Trauma Capitalist with clients.  Epstein was a trauma capitalist with A-List clients. And not the first nor last. 

Its made like he used the abducted ones Sina Loa sells into slavery. which is different thing entirely, but it gets lumped together. 

He was Heidi Flyce with an Island specializing in girls 2 years younger. Recruiting girls with money or glamor.  Is there really much difference is the willingness of girls to work for Heidi at 19 and Jeffery at 16? Or anyone at any age? 

Same base of "girls being exploited."

And not always exploited. The regulated ones dont seem too torn up. Like Reno or outside Clark County. Maybe that's a solution? Make a government agency the pimp. 

There will always be pimps, whores, and johns.  Always be men wanting sex with young girls. Were kidding ourselves with a distraction-o-pandering on Epstein. 

Losing our shit over who is on the Epstein list doesn't stop that. It doesn't stop the root of what leads to these girls to be exploited.  Nothing will. 

Just a noteworthy pimp to obsess over tapping the pulse of the preexisting sex industry.  It is blown up into this conspiracy of pervasive trafficking to focus on.  

And it does all this while there are local underage teenage prostitutes walking that street with the strip clubs by the military base every night. With equally predatory pimps. Everywhere there are military bases and predatory pimps. 

It seems like such a hill to proudly die on it has to be partially a psychological projection.

You're not wrong
It is a sick fucking world and the sickness will always be there 

On one level I think this is about exposing the rot of the governing class
Their rot is a reflection of the rot in society as a whole 

The difference  between us and them is, they make the laws we must all abide by
We obey those laws because of the general feeling of trust we have for authority 
Right or wrong, we hold them to a higher standard 
We value their leadership only when we believe they carry the essence of true leaders 

They stand for law and order 

When our trust in their leadership erodes, morality erodes, everything erodes 

On another level, this is a stand off between government and the people 
A battle between government and the will of the people  

We live in a country where we are consistently told our Constitution establishes that ultimate power resides with the people 

Government is supposed to acquiesce to the will of the people, not the other way around 

I think many of us have felt the untruth of these words for a very long time 

The Epstein battle confirms that feeling

[cherokeetroy]

We are locked in a figurative staring contest
Where the public has given a clear directive to an unlawful government that refuses to blink

[cherokeetroy]

Another connection I wasn't previously aware of

Photo was taken 2013



Josh Kushner is married to super model Karlie Kloss who worked for Elite Modeling Management (John Casablancas)

And she was a Victoria's Secret Angel from 2013 - 2015 (Les Wexner)

[MonkMode]

Losing our shit over who is on the Epstein list doesn't stop that. It doesn't stop the root of what leads to these girls to be exploited.  Nothing will. 

It seems like such a hill to proudly die on it has to be partially a psychological projection.

Losing You shit is quite literally the only thing that will stop this kind of exploitation.