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It appears to me that there is a prevailing allegation that some of the victims, were in fact, excusing their acts, preemptively - in an attempt to lessen their culpability...
If it is so, or not is something a prosecutor decides to charge.
Casting aspersions isn't very revealing to the topic... and since it has evoked a direct request to cease and desist... A moderator must now make a choice....
say no more of it... and the moderation becomes moot....
please cut us some damn slack, and just stop talking at each other...
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Nancy Grace speaks to Jeffrey Epstein's Brother and a victim brutalized on his island.
Evil Will Never Win.
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"Continuing Epstein Investigation, Wyden Releases New Analysis Detailing How Top JPMorgan Chase Executives Enabled Epstein’s Sex Trafficking Operation
Democratic Staff Memorandum Cites Need for Further Investigation"
"The analysis, contained in an 18-page Democratic staff memorandum, draws on recently unsealed court documents that included correspondence between top JPMorgan executives, as well as Senator Wyden’s own investigation of Epstein bank records. The records show top JPMC executives reporting directly to CEO Jamie Dimon closely supervised the relationship with Epstein. The memorandum also examines Epstein’s payments to Ghislaine Maxwell, who is now enjoying special privileges in a minimum-security facility, and the close involvement of accountant Harry Beller, who had signatory authority over Epstein’s accounts."
[2025-11-20] Continuing Epstein Investigation, Wyden Releases New Analysis Detailing How Top JPMorgan Chase Executives Enabled Epstein’s Sex Trafficking Operation | The United States Senate Committee on Finance
The banks just looked the other way too.
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(01-05-2026, 07:53 AM)quintessentone Wrote: ....
The banks just looked the other way too.
I strongly disagree...
They were "in" on it... you do not suddenly enable the transfer hundreds of billions of dollars in wealth over a few weeks by 'happenstance because of the flu.'
Not only did they know about this 'plan for travesty,' they know it was never engineered as anything less than an opportunity.
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(01-05-2026, 11:46 AM)Maxmars Wrote: I strongly disagree...
They were "in" on it... you do not suddenly enable the transfer hundreds of billions of dollars in wealth over a few weeks by 'happenstance because of the flu.'
Not only did they know about this 'plan for travesty,' they know it was never engineered as anything less than an opportunity.
Well looking the other way is the same to me as allowing it to happen. I really don't know who was in on it or who just followed their superior's orders to put the transactions through. I hope this will all come out in the courts through financial records.
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(01-05-2026, 11:53 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Well looking the other way is the same to me as allowing it to happen. I really don't know who was in on it or who just followed their superior's orders to put the transactions through. I hope this will all come out in the courts through financial records.
Oh, I'm sorry if that came off as a challenge to your argument... it really wasn't meant to be...
My poorly-made ironic point was meant to highlight that either way it always seems the 'fulcrum' for malfeasance is in no one else's hand but the 'bank.'
And it appears they are always "all in" when it comes to economic 'set 'em up, and knock 'em down!'
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(01-05-2026, 12:25 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Oh, I'm sorry if that came off as a challenge to your argument... it really wasn't meant to be...
My poorly-made ironic point was meant to highlight that either way it always seems the 'fulcrum' for malfeasance is in no one else's hand but the 'bank.'
And it appears they are always "all in" when it comes to economic 'set 'em up, and knock 'em down!'
I never think your responses are anything but civil, welcoming, educational and not challenging the member, rather challenging the idea or source or opinion.
From what I am reading lately about bank goings on, I think we shouldn't be so trusting of them.
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(01-05-2026, 12:33 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I never think your responses are anything but civil, welcoming, educational and not challenging the member, rather challenging the idea or source or opinion.
From what I am reading lately about bank goings on, I think we shouldn't be so trusting of them.
Thank you kindly for the observation...
It's not really the concept at all that's fundamentally biased towards 'exploitative' control... that is the fundamental nature of 'tools' whether they be a justice system, or a hammer... exploiters only 'see' exploitation.
The charade of "theater" taints everything "banks" demand as a function of a "service" to society... Instead, it is "used" as a substitute for "royal-level" supranational authority... carrying along with them, all the 'tools' that got them to this point.
When you interbreed that with purely personally-driven "control"... and here we are... 'subjects' of the bank.
It never had to be this way, but the strangest cohesion of political, religious, and social figures all became part of the confluence of "virtual" value which led to where we are today... Maybe President Jackson was right all along....
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(01-05-2026, 01:39 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Thank you kindly for the observation...
It's not really the concept at all that's fundamentally biased towards 'exploitative' control... that is the fundamental nature of 'tools' whether they be a justice system, or a hammer... exploiters only 'see' exploitation.
The charade of "theater" taints everything "banks" demand as a function of a "service" to society... Instead, it is "used" as a substitute for "royal-level" supranational authority... carrying along with them, all the 'tools' that got them to this point.
When you interbreed that with purely personally-driven "control"... and here we are... 'subjects' of the bank.
It never had to be this way, but the strangest cohesion of political, religious, and social figures all became part of the confluence of "virtual" value which led to where we are today... Maybe President Jackson was right all along....
Yep, so this has been going on since day 1.
"You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning.
Andrew Jackson"
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I think he was correct when he used the term "injustice."
... and that alone should be a call for activists... otherwise employed.
The entire "carrot and stick," "feast and famine," "punished for asserting sovereignty," "drained when convenient," and 'throttled' when profitable strategy, is getting thread-worn.
Now, the makers and engineers are apparently exposed as uncomfortably within Epstein's focus of "hosting."
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