Release All Files! - Part 1

[Kurokage]

He looks guilty? LoL
That’s just Democrat and media spin.
If you actually pay attention, the media occasionally, even if hidden, has to admit the truth…

“Mr. Epstein had a talent for acquiring powerful friends, some of whom have become ensnared in the continuing scrutiny of his crimes. For months, Mr. Trump has labored furiously to shift himself out of the frame, dismissing questions about his relationship with Mr. Epstein as a "Democrat hoax" and imploring his supporters to ignore the matter entirely. An examination of their history by The New York Times has found no evidence implicating Mr. Trump in Mr. Epstein's abuse and trafficking of minors.”
-The New York Times, December 18, 2025

So, claiming there wasn't any files and it was all a democratic hoax, and then dragging his feet to even start releasing the files doesn't make him appear guilty of something? No helping those with blind faith.
Maybe paying attention is to much for some faithful Trumpers!!

[Vermilion]

No.   I'm not a democrat (nor am I republican) and 
I'm saying Trump looks guilty as hell for how this 
has been handled.   (so does Biden, btw)

You’re still not getting it.
Trump (executive branch) and Congress (legislative branch) have no power here to release anything the courts have sealed.
It’s a Judicial branch power.
That’s it.

[FlyersFan]

You’re still not getting it.
Trump (executive branch) and Congress (legislative branch) have no power here to release anything the courts have sealed.
It’s a Judicial branch power.
That’s it.

I understand that there is a process.   But what I'm saying is that both Biden and Trump could have pushed the process to happen .... and then there is all that talk from Trump first about how he'll release the files, then about it being a hoax and then suddenly he says he'll cooperate and release files that he had previously said were just a hoax .... and then him getting all ticked anytime anyone brought up Epstein when in fact it was one of his campaign promises and so of course people are going to bring it up

As a non-democrat and non-republican ... he reads guilty to me.   
OR at the very least he reads as someone who is very very nervous about what is in the files.

[Kurokage]

You’re still not getting it.
Trump (executive branch) and Congress (legislative branch) have no power here to release anything the courts have sealed.
It’s a Judicial branch power.
That’s it.

You're still not getting it!!

Trump calling the files all a hoax by the democrats and then dragging his feet to release the now proven files, makes him look guilty no matter whether he is or not. 

The political and rich elites on all sides are looking guilty just being associated with Epstein now. By making it a campaign issue and focusing the medias attention on it, it's not just going to go away.
If Trump has nothing to hide, then he needs to hit this head on and allow a non-partisan investigation to look for any possible guilty offenders.

[andy06shake]

As a non-democrat and non-republican ... he reads guilty to me.   
OR at the very least he reads as someone who is very very nervous about what is in the files.

Snap.

Looks that way to me also.

Well said. 

[Vermilion]

I understand that there is a process.   But what I'm saying is that both Biden and Trump could have pushed the process to happen .... and then there is all that talk from Trump first about how he'll release the files, then about it being a hoax and then suddenly he says he'll cooperate and release files that he had previously said were just a hoax .... and then him getting all ticked anytime anyone brought up Epstein when in fact it was one of his campaign promises and so of course people are going to bring it up

As a non-democrat and non-republican ... he reads guilty to me.   
OR at the very least he reads as someone who is very very nervous about what is in the files.

Trumps admin has released hundreds of thousands of Epstein files, which some ignored or brushed aside, never even reading any of them, and instead swallowed Democrat/media talking points.
It’s going to be damn near impossible that the judiciary releases those sealed files.
The judicial process is what it is and there’s a reason why those things are sealed.
This isn’t specific to only the Epstein case.
Millions of cases are sealed for good reasons and the unsealing of those files needs a gigantic reason nobody can justify.
“We have zero legitimate reasons but we still think there are more guilty parties” isn’t a justification for egregiously violating citizens civil rights, especially when the judiciary knows for a fact this is only driven by politics.
There are some crooked judges out there (one was just guilty in a juror trial) but none dumb enough to trash their career and life over this Epstein political hoax, yet.

[Kurokage]

Trumps admin has released hundreds of thousands of Epstein files, which some ignored or brushed aside, never even reading any of them, and instead swallowed Democrat/media talking points.
It’s going to be damn near impossible that the judiciary releases those sealed files.
The judicial process is what it is and there’s a reason why those things are sealed.
This isn’t specific to only the Epstein case.
Millions of cases are sealed for good reasons and the unsealing of those files needs a gigantic reason nobody can justify.
“We have zero legitimate reasons but we still think there are more guilty parties” isn’t a justification for egregiously violating citizens civil rights, especially when the judiciary knows for a fact this is only driven by politics.
There are some crooked judges out there (one was just guilty in a juror trial) but none dumb enough to trash their career and life over this Epstein political hoax, yet.

You're still ignoring the fact that old Donnie, Bondi and others all said the files didn't exist and it was all a hoax.  Your faith is blinding you to that fact.

It wasn't until pressure was put on the administration and pics of Trump with Epstein together were released did they finally move forward on releasing those 'hoaxed' files.

[Vermilion]

You're still ignoring the fact that old Donnie, Bondi and others all said the files didn't exist and it was all a hoax.  Your faith is blinding you to that fact.

It wasn't until pressure was put on the administration and pics of Trump with Epstein together were released did they finally move forward on releasing those 'hoaxed' files.

The Democrat hoax which consists of….
“files implicating Trump as an Epstein co-conspirator”
“Trump can release anything he wants but he won’t because he’s guilty”

Those files do not exist.
Trump doesn’t have the power to release anything behind judicial court seal.

That’s the hoax and you know it, so quit acting ignorant.
Do you not realize how transparent your admitted ignorance is yet?

[andy06shake]

The Democrat hoax which consists of….
“files implicating Trump as an Epstein co-conspirator”
“Trump can release anything he wants but he won’t because he’s guilty”

Those files do not exist.
Trump doesn’t have the power to release anything behind judicial court seal.

That’s the hoax and you know it, so quit acting ignorant.
Do you not realize how transparent your admitted ignorance is yet?

How do you know they don't exist, given they were besties for so long?

[Kurokage]

The Democrat hoax which consists of….
“files implicating Trump as an Epstein co-conspirator”
“Trump can release anything he wants but he won’t because he’s guilty”

Those files do not exist.
Trump doesn’t have the power to release anything behind judicial court seal.

That’s the hoax and you know it, so quit acting ignorant.
Do you not realize how transparent your admitted ignorance is yet?

I think it's you who's being ignorant here because of you're bias. 

Firstly, because Trump sat on the files after using it as a campaign promise and declaring them as hoax makes him look guilty, except it.

Secondly, no body said he was a co-conspirator but he has been shown to have used Epstein's services. 
So far he's as guilty as Clinton is just by his association with Epstein. By letting the democrats release pictures and emails of him show's he has ties to Epstein, whilst Trump was to busy screaming hoax and calling his 'followers' stupid.
He should of pre-emptively done as he had promised, before he was made to look as guilty as the rest of the elites.

Thirdly, With all that redaction and still a ton of files still not released who knows what else is being held back?