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Human will... the internal force we rely upon as an alternative to "accepting the way things are."
It is not the same as a "will" for free action alone... it has a direction and INTENT.
What we manifest or don't, isn't always a matter of a "force," internal or otherwise.
Humans have a stubborn yoke over desires... we can reject them or not.
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(07-21-2025, 10:00 AM)Maxmars Wrote: Human will... the internal force we rely upon as an alternative to "accepting the way things are."
It is not the same as a "will" for free action alone... it has a direction and INTENT.
What we manifest or don't, isn't always a matter of a "force," internal or otherwise.
Humans have a stubborn yoke over desires... we can reject them or not.
As it was explained to me, once the ego is cracked open via shrooms, then so does stubborness evaporate and self-reflection and self-awareness become the primary desire, as well as a oneness with nature.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(07-21-2025, 10:00 AM)Maxmars Wrote: Human will... the internal force we rely upon as an alternative to "accepting the way things are."
It is not the same as a "will" for free action alone... it has a direction and INTENT.
What we manifest or don't, isn't always a matter of a "force," internal or otherwise.
Humans have a stubborn yoke over desires... we can reject them or not.
it is weird that rejection of desires thing
it cuts both ways
a rejection of desires is as it were an active process
it maintains significance
and significance begs intent
it is like those children's woven finger-cuffs
that you pull apart and they just grab tighter
the struggle defines the context
like if you define your purity by continence
that intent though a form of rejection
predicates a world of incontinence
that traps with struggle
force, control, intent, they are the weave
psychedelic may actually tear
or meditation loosen
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(07-21-2025, 10:22 AM)quintessentone Wrote: As it was explained to me, once the ego is cracked open via shrooms, then so does stubborness evaporate and self-reflection and self-awareness become the primary desire, as well as a oneness with nature.
I am curious, what type of mushroom are you talking about. Is it psilocybin?
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(07-21-2025, 10:35 AM)midicon Wrote: I am curious, what type of mushroom are you talking about. Is it psilocybin?
Yes, psilocybin or shrooms. I would hazard a guess everything will go well if the correct dose is given. That is the conundrum I face right now, what is the right dose for me, so as to not go all the way, so to speak.
"The only journey is the one within."
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07-21-2025, 10:43 AM
This post was last modified: 07-21-2025, 10:43 AM by Maxmars. 
(07-21-2025, 10:24 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: it is weird that rejection of desires thing
...
Weirdly...
Your finger-trap analogy shoved me down a slide of thought...
The finger trap uses your own strength to grip your finger if you pull away...
it was clearly "designed" with intent for "a finger."
Do you suppose that the inner resistance to a thought or intent...
might be a "designed" constraint?
Specifically for that kind of application of will?
If so, it's not really a trap, is it?
The finger trap is a direct demonstration...
a subtle learning tool...
perhaps to illustrate the force isn't the answer,
it is the direction and control of force that is the key to freedom.
Meh... to soon after meds... I'm probably not saying the right words
to convey the 'weirdness' angle...
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(07-21-2025, 10:37 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Yes, psilocybin or shrooms. I would hazard a guess everything will go well if the correct dose is given. That is the conundrum I face right now, what is the right dose for me, so as to not go all the way, so to speak.
It's not that difficult a question. Just look up what a normal dose is for your body weight (hell, you could ask ChatGPT). If you're worried, lower it a little.
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(07-21-2025, 10:22 AM)quintessentone Wrote: As it was explained to me, once the ego is cracked open via shrooms, then so does stubborness evaporate and self-reflection and self-awareness become the primary desire, as well as a oneness with nature.
It sounds to me like you're doing it all correct. Maybe you won't benefit from the trip, maybe you don't need it.
As I always say, now the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, what might be right for you may not be right for some.
I keep emphasizing that there's many ways to grow and learn from the inner self. I recommend a healthy variety of methods.
Drugs isn't the final boss of spiritual ascension.
And yes balance between the inner and outer is the point of life. We only know 2 things: I am inside, and that is outside. Living in harmony between the 2 is what's important.
If you're living balanced and happy, don't mess with that.
If you're like me and have a lifetime of trauma and BS, then yeah breaking down the ego and rebuilding is helpful. The drugs help you find your natural state because you experience a part of your self without all the noise of daily trivialities.
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(07-21-2025, 11:15 AM)Ignorant Wrote: It's not that difficult a question. Just look up what a normal dose is for your body weight (hell, you could ask ChatGPT). If you're worried, lower it a little.
There are other factors, such as other prescribed interactions (heart rate, blood pressure, etc.), or even eating certain foods may inhibit the effects, such as greasy foods, which are purported to slow the absorption of same and one may not have the experience one is expecting.
There is a lot of research to be had, besides just figuring out the right dosage via one's weight.
Alternatively, not having anything to eat beforehand may cause nausea.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(07-21-2025, 01:41 PM)AlroyFarms Wrote: It sounds to me like you're doing it all correct. Maybe you won't benefit from the trip, maybe you don't need it.
As I always say, now the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, what might be right for you may not be right for some.
I keep emphasizing that there's many ways to grow and learn from the inner self. I recommend a healthy variety of methods.
Drugs isn't the final boss of spiritual ascension.
And yes balance between the inner and outer is the point of life. We only know 2 things: I am inside, and that is outside. Living in harmony between the 2 is what's important.
If you're living balanced and happy, don't mess with that.
If you're like me and have a lifetime of trauma and BS, then yeah breaking down the ego and rebuilding is helpful. The drugs help you find your natural state because you experience a part of your self without all the noise of daily trivialities.
Yes, that's what I told my daughter, I'm don't need it to get to where I think I need to go. I may already be there and it's all groovy.
But, she wants to do a shroom party with me and she keeps asking over and over and I am considering it. I mean really, what could go wrong?
"The only journey is the one within."
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