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#41
(04-16-2026, 05:34 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Look at Java Plumb, it grows quick and will live ok in temperate environments. Years back when I lived in the family home, I go out the front and there are these old Indian dudes harvesting it and they freak out Im just like, 'na its ok, take as much as you want, I have some saplings too".

We planted it because it was fast growing more than for its fruit.

You can even grow them in a pot and still get some yeild. They are pretty hardy.

I am kicking around the idea of planting certain ok temperate environmental fruit trees, lemon mostly, maybe coffee, in pots and keeping them in my coolish basement under plant lights.

It was kind of you to share with those obviously less fortunate, that is because you had enough to share. 

It is difficult to know if one should share stored food or not because all the prepper vids I watch advise of the dangers of doing that, by turning good neighbors into desperate violent neighbors.
"The only journey is the one within."
#42
(04-16-2026, 05:42 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I am kicking around the idea of planting certain ok temperate environmental fruit trees, lemon mostly, maybe coffee, in pots and keeping them in my coolish basement under plant lights.

It was kind of you to share with those obviously less fortunate, that is because you had enough to share. 

It is difficult to know if one should share stored food or not because all the prepper vids I watch advise of the dangers of doing that, by turning good neighbors into desperate violent neighbors.

If yu're looking at citrus and thinking lemons, well think limes too, they are a little more fussy that lemons but if its real lime, worth it.

Why I say real lime, is many growers splice a lime twig to a lemon root stock and after time, you just end up with a lemon tree.

Get some strawberry pots, if you dont know what I mean,, do look it up.
I was not here.
#43
(04-16-2026, 06:01 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: If yu're looking at citrus and thinking lemons, well think limes too, they are a little more fussy that lemons but if its real lime, worth it.

Why I say real lime, is many growers splice a lime twig to a lemon root stock and after time, you just end up with a lemon tree.

Get some strawberry pots, if you dont know what I mean,, do look it up.

Fussy is the last thing I will want to have to deal with when TSHTF. Actually, I am looking at native plants to my region that are hardy survivors which serve dual or more purposes or one specialized purpose that is a necessity. Coffee and/or lemon growing may be a pipe dream considering I will need to keep temps at a certain range and provide them with adequate light which will need a solar generator, and that solar generator will be needed for other necessities.

I'm not sure what you are referring to with the strawberry pots in regards to growing lemons, those types of pots are advised against for lemon/lime growing.
"The only journey is the one within."
#44
One thing I found out while looking at something else: quick lime can be used as a heat source for cooking and such, and it doesn't give a flame or smoke.
#45
(04-16-2026, 07:29 PM)ArMaP Wrote: One thing I found out while looking at something else: quick lime can be used as a heat source for cooking and such, and it doesn't give a flame or smoke.

Right now I'm looking at denatured alcohol as mostly a heat source which burns clean (blue flame) and I am looking at putting together an easy DIY radiant heater for very low cost and time; fuel that is easy to find and store.

I've got too many projects on the go, in real time and in the planning stages, and it's gardening time, so prepping the land, then planting my food and medicine gardens is the priority right now.
"The only journey is the one within."
#46
Whatever you prep at some point you are going to trade all of it for 'clean water' - that is how important it is.

Batteries and tobacco are apparently sacred (see hyperinflation in Venezuela a few years back).

Thumbs up.
#47
(04-20-2026, 01:42 PM)Karl12 Wrote: Whatever you prep at some point you are going to trade all of it for 'clean water' - that is how important it is.

Batteries and tobacco are apparently sacred (see hyperinflation in Venezuela a few years back).

Thumbs up.

It's strange you mention tobacco as a high value barter item because won't those that are addicted to nicotine end up going through withdrawal and that will take care of that problem? I'm thinking tobacco use is higher in countries other than in the greater North America.

I am definitely collecting batteries at this point; the ones that last 10 years. As well, as those charging banks, well I have one so far but it plugs into my house electrical outlets to charge. I will be looking at USB solar powered solar charging banks that will hold a longer charge.

I have a source of well water which I have the means to clean well enough, so my bartering will most likely be the water for other necessities, most likely for meat/veggies from those who hunt/fish/farm.

When TSHTF farming produce will take time to grow and be ready to eat, but I know which weeds and native plants that grow wild and how to harvest and prepare them. I would expect hunting game and fishing can be thought of as immediately obtainable food.
"The only journey is the one within."
#48
Free paper, sawdust, coffee grounds etc. mixture into fire briquettes...how to.

So I'm thinking of installing a wood stove, one that can burn multiple types of materials. So with my prepper thinking cap on I ask myself "What if wood becomes scarce - what then?"

Some people around the world also burn dried opened pinecones, peat and/or dried animal dung mixed with whatever else is available, but we have a lot of paper products that are just being thrown away which can be a valuable source of heat with a little work.

In this video, the set up to make fire briquettes/logs is the easiest for me and I have all the materials handy, so it would be my first go to. There are also videos with car jack set ups, which require more intricate builds.




What other materials, things we would just throw away, that could be added to the mixture that would also burn, perhaps make it burn longer?
"The only journey is the one within."
#49
(04-20-2026, 04:41 PM)quintessentone Wrote: It's strange you mention tobacco as a high value barter item because won't those that are addicted to nicotine end up going through withdrawal and that will take care of that problem? I'm thinking tobacco use is higher in countries other than in the greater North America.

I am definitely collecting batteries at this point; the ones that last 10 years. As well, as those charging banks, well I have one so far but it plugs into my house electrical outlets to charge. I will be looking at USB solar powered solar charging banks that will hold a longer charge.

I have a source of well water which I have the means to clean well enough, so my bartering will most likely be the water for other necessities, most likely for meat/veggies from those who hunt/fish/farm.

When TSHTF farming produce will take time to grow and be ready to eat, but I know which weeds and native plants that grow wild and how to harvest and prepare them. I would expect hunting game and fishing can be thought of as immediately obtainable food.



Right on mate and do salute your activities - some extremely serious shit is coming down the pipeline (allegedly).

Have tried to source that older Venezuela documentary but looks like someone's taken a lot of time to remove every copy (even on Bitchute lol).

It's a bit raw but the man is reporting in the weeks as hyperinflation hits and it's 'pandemonium' - from an anthropological perspective it's truly fascinating but truly disturbing.

Gunshots outside his window and reports of cannibalism within three weeks - flour, nicotine, batteries, coffee etc worth more than gold (with life being very cheap) - have never forgot watching it.

Reckon surrounding yourself with good capable neighbours is extremely important and things like tin openers, aluminium foil, lighter gas, nappies etc are often overlooked.

Hey let's hope nobody needs anything and everything remains sane lol.

Cheers
#50
(04-22-2026, 11:34 AM)Karl12 Wrote: Right on mate and do salute your activities - some extremely serious shit is coming down the pipeline (allegedly).

Have tried to source that older Venezuela documentary but looks like someone's taken a lot of time to remove every copy (even on Bitchute lol).

It's a bit raw but the man is reporting in the weeks as hyperinflation hits and it's 'pandemonium' - from an anthropological perspective it's truly fascinating but truly disturbing.

Gunshots outside his window and reports of cannibalism within three weeks - flour, nicotine, batteries, coffee etc worth more than gold (with life being very cheap) - have never forgot watching it.

Reckon surrounding yourself with good capable neighbours is extremely important and things like tin openers, aluminium foil, lighter gas, nappies etc are often overlooked.

Hey let's hope nobody needs anything and everything remains sane lol.

Cheers

Well I would like to have read it, because in my mind at this point is that people and communities will come together to help each other, such as the Greeks did during their economic collapse where they turned to bartering, and the people of Gaza during extreme famine did not turn to cannibalism but rather ate cats, dogs and rats or starved to death instead.

When I think of people starving, I think back on a movie entitled "The Good Earth", where the female lead boiled dirt and the whole family ate it.

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 More study would be helpful to confirm the protection hypothesis, the researchers say, but the available data at this point clearly support it over the other explanations.

"We hope this paper stimulates [more] research," Young and her colleagues write. "More importantly, we hope readers agree that it is time to stop regarding geophagy as a bizarre, non-adaptive gustatory mistake."
"With these data, it is clear that geophagy is a widespread behavior in humans … that occurs during both vulnerable life stages and when facing ecological conditions that require protection."
Young has also released a book on the subject called Craving Earth: Understanding Pica -- the Urge to Eat Clay, Starch, Ice, and Chalk.
 
Most of us never considered eating the mud pies we made as kids, but for many people all over the world, dining on dirt is nothing out of the ordinary. Now an extensive meta-analysis forthcoming in the June issue of The Quarterly Review of Biology helps explain why." (LLM)

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...162820.htm

I guess the phrase "Eat dirt" (and die") may no longer be true.
"The only journey is the one within."



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