"Personhood credentials" to prove you're real... because of A.I.

[l0st]

Recent headline about AI mastering CAPTCHA

From NewScientist: An AI can beat CAPTCHA tests 100 per cent of the time

Sadly I can't access the article because I selfishly refuse to "give my information" to them.

I'm having a similar problem with AT&T right now. They've added a bunch of fraudulent charges to my bill, admitted to it, but if I want them removed they "must" do some stupid voice print thing. I refuse.

I will not do it, never gonna do it. Now I'm embroiled about 5 layers deep and no acquiescence yet? I'm not capitulating. I've stated about 50 times now, tbius is not in the contract and I will not do it. Still being run around. I actually have lawyers involved now... This may actually go to court!

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You can already upload a random photo (in numerous file formats) to Google and it will go out and find similar photos, so image recognition is already there.  And that's not even AI.  You can already ask openAI to generate a dog walking a human on a leash, pick the dog type and the human characteristics, and it will generate a full length video of exactly that.  So, I don't know what kind of relationships between disparate things you could use to fool it.  (and by 'fool it', I mean make it unable to do something only a human could).

Plus, today most of the AI we've all been exposed to so far is "narrow" AI.  "General" AI is a far scarier prospect.  And there's "super" AI on the horizon now too.  And here's the thing, narrow AI is generally subject based.  General AI isn't.  But now they have narrow AI machines crunching down things where the subject is "General AI".  So, while the creator is only narrow AI, it can create something which is capable of general AI.  This has closed the developmental path from years to months (or even days in some cases).  Once we get to general AI boxes working on super AI "they/it" may ignore human inputs altogether.

edit - Back in the '80's people used to scoff at concepts like "Skynet" from the Terminator movie franchise.  Now it's almost a reality, and it's everywhere.  We're already hearing about AI being used on the battlefield by militaries around the globe.  How long will it be before AI realizes who the real problem is (i.e. people) and starts to eliminate them?

Amazon has a public facial recognition database at least 10 years now.

[theshadowknows]

This gives me the chills. The end is near. https://world.org/world-id
 

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[quintessentone]

If the data is immediately disposed of, on the other/receiving end, what's the problem? I'm not an ID tekkie, so maybe I am missing something.

[sahgwa]

If the data is immediately disposed of, on the other/receiving end, what's the problem? I'm not an ID tekkie, so maybe I am missing something.

Big IF right there. i don't spose you actually trust corporations?
Data is always stored , saved and sold. 
No matter what they say.

[quintessentone]

Big IF right there. i don't spose you actually trust corporations?
Data is always stored , saved and sold. 
No matter what they say.

All I know is that the airport/airline companies in my country dispose of data immediately and it's a fact. So, maybe everyone should be doing some oversight and confirmation first before making accusations. Certain types of data is immediately deleted, but other data is deleted after 36 hours (this timeframe makes sense to me just in case of delays, etc.)

[sahgwa]

All I know is that the airport/airline companies in my country dispose of data immediately and it's a fact. So, maybe everyone should be doing some oversight and confirmation first before making accusations. Certain types of data is immediately deleted, but other data is deleted after 36 hours (this timeframe makes sense to me just in case of delays, etc.)

Are you in New Zealand?
I don't trust anything the government or a corporation tells me, especially with my private information.
Do they have everything on me already? yes, but it's a matter of principle, really.

[quintessentone]

Are you in New Zealand?
I don't trust anything the government or a corporation tells me, especially with my private information.
Do they have everything on me already? yes, but it's a matter of principle, really.

Not New Zealand but a country just like it and 'yep' all governments and companies already have everything on everyone, so what do we do...become ghosts with new dodging VPN's and don't show your face anywhere, let alone go anywhere? Or demand data deletion within a reasonable amount of time? Like that will happen with companies that rely on marketing.

[Sirius]

So many passwords and ways to identify myself to %#$% machines only for it to be hacked in any case. Can't the computer just know who I am?

Justice will demand your access and your rights with the flick of a switch.  Pray to the sun for deliverance, only a solar flare can stop the machine.

[Karl12]

demand data deletion within a reasonable amount of time?

Anything is possible mate.

Cannot find time to watch the OP video so can anyone give a short synopsis about what we are talking about?

Most corporations these days are clinical psychopaths so there's that.

[Maxmars]

(Just a plug for reference: "Personhood credentials" to prove you're real... because of A.I.)


"World ID" is another 'consolidate data' façade.

Now this notional construct will have validating data which is owned and trafficked by yet another virtual middleman.  

And how long before 'requirements' are foisted upon users... sex, gender, religion, race, ethnicity, income-level, social score, MAC address, banking tokens, social media memberships...?

I can't relate to the disconnect between the developers and the reality that they cannot guarantee safety, security, nor disposition of the 'world' information they will house and use for their "commerce." 

And the "encryption" fantasy is getting old... most every internet entity can be breached and siphoned... it happens every day, everywhere... except in the "World ID" realm the prize will be be for ALL the apples in the cart.  When they get hacked, every connected entity will be open to exploitation.