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Orban Out: Is The Autocrat Craze Ending?
#1
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/12/world/liv...ban-magyar
Quote:What to know

• Concession: Veteran Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán accepted defeat in a parliamentary election, ending his 16 years in power, and congratulated Péter Magyar, leader of the center-right opposition Tisza party.

• Supermajority: With nearly 90% of votes counted, election officials say Magyar’s Tisza party is set to secure two-thirds of seats in parliament, with many hoping he could reverse some of the changes made by Orbán.

Is Meloni (Italy) on notice?
Is Murmu (India) destined to follow?
What will happen after Putin?

I have a sociological theory that mass changes happen exactly like this.  All an analog of Rome's transition from pagan to Christian. 

Putin, Orban Trump, Meloni, Murmu, and the like are to Julian The Apostate, as secular humanism and woke is to Christianity.

And just like the "Make Rome Great Again" reign of following Constantine's social reforms, they are relatively short lived. 

I feel the recent mass inclination towards electing autocratic nationalists is more a way to stop and troll any social change not acceptable. 

Like when Constantine outlawed public sacrifice and Julian made it his goal to troll Christians by making it the centerpiece of how their doing things again.  

This is like a repeat history of that.

But that's just my opinion.

Do you feel this result signifies the global trend is shifting?
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#2
Good riddance! All of these dictators in the Putin style are rotten eggs. Orban only cares about himself and his own interests.
#3
I think anyone who thinks any politicians aren’t rotten, or at least easily corruptible, is stupid. Dictators wear many faces. If the one who aligns the most with your views is elected do you feel that’s good? That your views are temporarily justified?  They all bow to their masters. They all follow the agenda. Apart, perhaps, from Putin, and he’s been an idiot.
#4
An autocrat loses a fair election and gracefully concedes?

All corruption and insane retarded spending aside, maybe he wasn’t the autocratic dictator the left framed him as.
#5
(04-12-2026, 08:58 PM)Vermilion Wrote: An autocrat loses a fair election and gracefully concedes?

All corruption and insane retarded spending aside, maybe he wasn’t the autocratic dictator the left framed him as.

Oh, that's what ya call it.... "Free and Fair"? 

So let's credit Viktor Orban for his "electoral democracy"

In which he:

• Used a two-thirds majority to alter the constitution to weaken the judiciary and consolidate his party's executive power.
• Overhauled districts to maintain the necessary supermajority with less than 50% of the popular vote most of the time. 
• Suppressed the media

Sounds like he used concepts of our democracy to gerrymander continued power for himself. 

So an answer could also be "he became so very unpopular he couldn't even win his own rigged game anymore."

Unless you believe its normal for a "free and fair" democracy anywhere today to maintain a single party 16 year two-thirds majority only broken once by a single election and seat from 2015 to 2018. To then return for 8 solid years only ending now...

Now the elephant. 

 The USA had decades of near total democrat control. Back when we were still "great" in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

But Orban did it all without a new deal and the labor union voting blocs that entrenched themselves thereafter. 

Keep in mind when democrats ruled both house and senate from 1955 to 1980 it was driven by the blue collar.  The fixture of conservative America today.

And I think only Pepperidge Farm remembers when the blue collar family man worker was completely on board with collective bargaining and confronting those who control the means of production.

So much doesn't translate times. Like American manufacturing surviving 80s capitalism after 4 decades of unions. 

Like why is the rough neck blue collar worker no longer a bourgeoisie commie?

The Irony of The Democrat-led anti communist Cold War America: 

"Better dead than red. Now where the fuck is my  guaranteed collectivist pay raise?"
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#6
Great news - was odd seeing JD Vance supporting a Putin- proxy dictator and regurgitating unfounded Kremlin propaganda about EU interferemce in elections while ignoring the Kremlin's Storm-1516 group opennly trying to rig the elections in favour of Orban.
#7
The people who helped shape Orbans' system of control are no longer willing to be shaped.#




Well done, Hungary... Thumbup
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#8
The “new guy” came from Orbans party.
He’s essentially “Orban minus the corruption”…..


"Hungary will not accept any pact. In fact, I'm going to reinforce the border fence even more."

The EU jackals are seething.
Good news for Hungary indeed.
#9
(04-15-2026, 08:16 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The “new guy” came from Orbans party.
He’s essentially “Orban minus the corruption”…..


That's a bit of a stretch. Peter Magyar left Orbans political party in 2010 to join a centrist party.

I would be glad to be rid of the corruption here. The "waste and fraud" gets more corrupt by the year.
#10
(04-15-2026, 08:16 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The “new guy” came from Orbans party.
He’s essentially “Orban minus the corruption”…..


"Hungary will not accept any pact. In fact, I'm going to reinforce the border fence even more."

The EU jackals are seething.
Good news for Hungary indeed.

Magyar isn't Orbán 2.0.

He looks to be more like a reformer coming from inside the system.

Trying to undo parts of what Orbán built, while keeping a centre-right base.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."