Old and New Testament, and Koran, as a mystical Egyptian initiation

[Wepwawet]

But in reference to Egypt specifically, they were not simply nomads wandering about, they had lived there for hundreds of years, worked and lived with Egyptians as Egyptians.  
The Isrealites did not become a homeless wandering tribe until the exodus (unless you account for the tribe Esau who remained in Canaan when his brother entered egypt.)

Some would argue that the bible is a complete work, some would disagree as the ethiopian bible is said to contain all of the books that were removed over time, 88 in total. and all a translation of even older hebrew, greek and aramaic writings.

You should read it sometime. 10/10 would recommend 

There is no evidence for any Hebrews/Israelites ever being in Egypt, nothing, they do not even appear in the historical record until Merneptah, and one reference to a city hardly constitutes an historical record for an entire people. Nothing of their writings appears until the first millennium BC, how can this be a history of events in Egypt dating to hundreds or thousands of years earlier, it cannot, it has no more validity than the Illiad as being historical, and probably less so.

[Creaky]

I'm talking about the Bible, which when it comes to Exodus specifically, is not history, it is mythological nation building. It has no more validity as history than the Roman myth of Aeneas coming from Troy as the ancestor of Romulus and Remus.

That’s a fantastic opinion, well done you

[Wepwawet]

That’s a fantastic opinion, well done you

At least I don't believe in fantasies.

[Creaky]

At least I don't believe in fantasies.

Oh I am sure you do, you know you do, you just can’t admit it 
Bang

[andy06shake]

That’s a fantastic opinion, well done you

Problem being that the Bible is a collection of religious texts written by multiple authors over centuries, shaped by oral tradition and theology.

And many of the events contained within said books simply lack any sort of independent archaeological or external corroboration.

To treat such a collection as historical fact is somewhat short-sighted to say the least...

[Datguy]

There is no evidence for any Hebrews/Israelites ever being in Egypt, nothing, they do not even appear in the historical record until Merneptah, and one reference to a city hardly constitutes an historical record for an entire people. Nothing of their writings appears until the first millennium BC, how can this be a history of events in Egypt dating to hundreds or thousands of years earlier, it cannot, it has no more validity than the Illiad as being historical, and probably less so.

I have offered you evidence, and there is more than just that but you deny it without even a glance, that IS ignorance. Nothing more can be done
You can lead a horse to water, but I'm not going to run in circles with you while you ignore evidence that is offered.

[Datguy]

And many of the events contained within said books simply lack any sort of independent archaeological or external corroboration.

This is simply false, it only takes a cursory search to find exactly that on nearly any subject in the bible. Its a matter of whether people choose to consider it or not.
people will go on for days about aliens and ufos with less evidence than can be offered about the bible, but no, it cant be true, it must be little green men

[andy06shake]

This is simply false, it only takes a cursory search to find exactly that on nearly any subject in the bible. Its a matter of whether people choose to consider it or not.
people will go on for days about aliens and ufos with less evidence than can be offered about the bible, but no, it cant be true, it must be little green men

Simply asserting that evidence exists isn't the same as presenting it.

Else, show your homework, please.

Large parts of the Bible are not written as literal historical reporting.

Much of Genesis early chapters about creation, Adam and Eve, Noah, Job, Psalms, i mean, the list goes on.

The Gospels are explicitly non-literal and full of parables.

And Revelation is apocalyptic symbolism.

Again thats just a fact...

[Wepwawet]

I have offered you evidence, and there is more than just that but you deny it without even a glance, that IS ignorance. Nothing more can be done
You can lead a horse to water, but I'm not going to run in circles with you while you ignore evidence that is offered.

Well, as it's you who state that the events in Exodus are a true historical account, then it's up to you to provide evidence for this. I do not believe Exodus is an historical account, and therefore do not need to prove a negative.

You have made a number of posts stating that there is evidence, but have failed to actually produce this evidence, a Youtube video is not and never will be evidence.

You say that I dismiss this evidence, that you have not produced, at a glance, and is ignorance, well, for a start you have not produced any evidence, and as far as this topic goes, I have been discussing this on and off for quite some time, and reading about it. Let's do a check list of what I have read to see just how "ignorant" I am. For a start I have read the Bible, I had no choice but to as a child, and I have re-read it since, specifically Genesis and Exodus. So I know that side of the story. I have also read the following books by the late Jan Assmann, an Egyptologist and serious scholar of this and related subjects. "From Akhenaten to Moses - Ancient Egypt and Religious Change" 2014. "Moses the Egyptian -  The memory of Egypt in Western Monotheism" 1997, and finally "The Invention of Religion - Faith and Covenant in the Book of Exodus" 2018. Added to this are a large number of books that I have on Ancient Egypt, so I know the history, I know the wider picture, something that I note that believers in the Bible and fringe authors steer well clear of because known facts and context are their enemy.

Have you read any books on this topic other than the Bible or religious tracts that re-enforce the Bible.

Haec sunt nomina filiorum Israhel qui ingressi sunt Aegyptum cum Iacob singuli cum domibus suis introierunt.......

[Creaky]

Problem being that the Bible is a collection of religious texts written by multiple authors over centuries, shaped by oral tradition and theology.

And many of the events contained within said books simply lack any sort of independent archaeological or external corroboration.

To treat such a collection as historical fact is somewhat short-sighted to say the least...

Yeah fine
Why not dismiss every book as possible fiction then?