Non-Human Intelligence (The Melting Pot)

[Karl12]

There are some good nuggets in this book




Loads of free stuff here as well


https://theobservermagazine.substack.com...lar-in-one


Don't reckon to know what's actually going on but UFOs ARE part of parapsychology and cryptozoology lol.

[Karl12]

I've corresponded with Stan and have to say he's one top notch chap.

Here he is talking about his 60 years of research and the findings of scientists, engineers and ex intel/police / military personnel involved in the 'Westmorland County UFO Study Group' which operated 24/7 for incoming reports around the state of Pennsylvania.

Would say it's a must listen interview for anyone with any interest in the UFO subject.

Stan Gordon began his journey in field investigations of UFOs and other Paranormal encounters in Pennsylvania in 1965. During 1973 UFOs began to make widespread appearances in the sky across the Keystone State. It was during the summer of that year however when a mysterious wave of events began to unfold.

Alarmed citizens over a widespread area reported close encounters with huge hairy Bigfoot-like creatures. Frightened residents called local authorities and media outlets reporting enormous footprints and terrified animals.

As the pace of the abnormal encounters quickened through the following months, more eyewitness reports of other strange creatures, and a variety of other paranormal events came to the attention of Gordon's investigation team.

He also pops up here describing quite a number of close range UFO/multiple witness/multiple Bigfoot reports and sightings of large, solid objects close to the ground or hovering over forests and highways - apparently during the 1973 wave reports flooded in and there was lots of media coverage at the time.

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Have been meaning to get into the John Keel info for awhile now. THANKS!!!
GRINS!!!

[Karl12]

Have been meaning to get into the John Keel info for awhile now. THANKS!!!
GRINS!!!

No worries amigo and great thread you've got going here - really does seem to me the more I learn about this subject the more clueless I become lol.

Would definitely recommend Keel and maybe similar authors like Vallee, Eno, Sinclair, Gordon, Riggs, Edgar, Swartz etc. are onto something when they 'follow the data' and engage in speculation about bizarre crossover phenomena, super-spectrums, reality frequencies, window areas and 'Paranormal soup'.

Also just posted this vid over on another thread but thought it deserved a spot here.



Video

[Karl12]

Completely a melting pot of UAP/UFO/Aliens/Orbs/Consiousness/gravity propulsion/unknown physics/time travel you name it like spaghetti sauce..

Spaghetti sauce indeed mate.

Thought this was a good interview with Joshua Cutchin and would recommend all of the guy's books (haven't read his last one yet).






https://www.youtube.com/live/Z8O791FJ2m4

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Well!
Perfect nail meets hammer moment Karl12. Was gifted both books by Cutchin's & Renner a couple of years ago, the information's appearance "seemed" to be the rival of the ufo/uap disinformation dumpster fire ignited by the intelligence community. 

In reality no one in the IC extravaganza has ever given us any sort of logical OR believable reason why on earth they ever had anything to do with Tom DeLonge. The NY Times also, in hindsight, were willing accomplices. There is a reason I drug this up, it's twofold. 

One, when we as humanity are faced with a fork in the timeline we can dodge left or right an continue on. It's been my observation when we've been personally presented with a good looking yet incorrect path the Paranormal can & will present something "more correct". Don't let "more correct" be assumed to be 100% or ideal. It's just not as wildly catastrophic as the other path. 

It's been absolutely hilartious the ufo/uap saga is now moving very much more into the NHI realm. The original IC storyline/disinformation has devolved much more quickly than in any other decade. 

Secondly, and much more interesting is just how deep the IC has already been involved with the Paranormal. Sure we knew they'd been playing around with it but it fell into the bucket of " disproving it" much more than confirming it. With the exception being back-engineering or working on new math & physics. It's pretty factual back-engineering will keep anyone interested in ufo/uap's foaming at the mouth about our rights to disclosure. While Math & Physics is complete greek to the rest of us & damn few of us have the patience to slog thru it
"Us" being everyday folk. (Jack Scarfatti deviated in a massive maths lesson recently on a podcast an while he's a excellent teacher my eyes still blurred as I did a perfect expression of a drooling Black Labrador trying to be not clueless)

However this is where it get's curious. Tucker Carlson did a Shawn Ryan Show podcast an tossed out the idea that we've been being bamboozled. It's NOT Aliens or UFO's the Govt is hiding. It's that they've figured out how to work WITH the NHI an are just using the ufo'uap dog & pony show to keep us from noticing. Something I'd never gave much condideration to simply because the NHI is so mercurial I wouldn't expect ANY orginazation to have much more luck with it than individuals have had. 

Alan E Nourse's 1961 science fiction story "Tiger By The Tail" being apropos. 

Love Truth Proof an this is one of the best interviews with Cutchin's I've seen. Hammer-Nail-Ouch!! Thanks Karl12 !!!

[Karl12]

Well!
Perfect nail meets hammer moment Karl12. Was gifted both books by Cutchin's & Renner a couple of years ago, the information's appearance "seemed" to be the rival of the ufo/uap disinformation dumpster fire ignited by the intelligence community. 

Absolutely honoured amigo lol.

When it comes to Gov families (that's how they roll) and Tom De'mongo then this thread contains some extremely Illuminating background info on the whole circus (you'll have to find it though).

Battery is low but yes that Cutchin interview is ridiculously important - have thought for a while now (personally) that UFOs are just 4fh dimensional objects.

Will probably change my mind next week.

All the best mate.

beer:

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Appreciate the kind words.
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Cutchin's an others are now following the trail blazed by Steve Mera & Barry Fitzgerald who pioneered the "different masks-same phenomena" hypothesis. Don't get me wrong, Cutchin's is highly educated in his own right. Everyones path to this NHI thing comes from wildly different directions.
(smile!)

Like you as new info gets turned up I have to adjust. 
The dimensional thing got blown out of the water for me when a physicist took a nutty about how no one, NO ONE has proven even so much as one other dimension exists. Science has less evidence of other dimensions than just about anything else you can think of.

Physicist flipping out? Priceless!! 

So I'm back to my original thought that whatever's here is out of our visual spectrum, it's here, we live along side it. No biggie. One thing not discussed,
Remember when every Hippy ran around announcing Gaia is alive? Earth is a living being?

Anyone thinking that the NHI manefestations we're seeing is Earth having a back & forth conversation/interactions with us? Just a notion I had way back & stuck a pin in pending more concrete evidence. 

It sounds a bit stupid as I type since Aboriginal's, First Nations, Indiginous Peoples  have said basically the same thing for thousands of years but that doesn't mean we'd apply it since ufo's-orbs-bizarre creatures to us seem more present day.

[Maxmars]

I think it's weird how high-end physics and UFOlogy (is that still the term?) share one very important characteristic... at it's base, it is a high 'thought-experiment' topic.  Sure there is ample evidence from either field, but so very little of it constitutes adequate 'proof' to dispense with skepticism when it comes to the core of it's reality. (Apologies to those of us who have personally experienced something, or have some special expertise.)

There are theories which many 'accept' as totally rational... and "extra-dimensional" ideation seems to bely the fact that no one knows what that is... meaning the absolute literal words: "no one knows."  Physicists rely on heady mathematics to extract models from what we measure in reality,... sounds perfectly rational to me.  But then there are those who explore reality "extracted from statistics,"... that doesn't fill me with the same confidence.  Especially when science, as it is, is entirely materialistic; frequently turning a blind eye to everything we can't 'see.'

The topic of dimensions always draws my attention, of late.  I think it may be that it is the wrong way to think about "elsewhere." 

I don't have any favorite theories about trans-dimensional reality.  But I can surmise that the funders of real efforts to unravel the mystery are part of the military complex, we can very comfortably assume that it will have a "defense"  perspective.  Some have said that we actually started dabbling into this idea back in the Montauk Project days...  but I digress.

If extradimensional considerations are included in the idea of aliens, we can never hope to 'understand' them, or their technology... until we know what they know.

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Migraine inducing it is.
 

(With no disrespect to anyone)
If you have no issues with God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit, you already accept at least one other dimension.

If you are on board with the Fae, BF or a few other like phenom,
It always gets silent initially. It's probable we're looking at evidence of "time dilation" for what's around us but can't percieve, to force the issue with folks who don't have the ability to physically see them any other way. 

These are just the "Party ordeurves" before the main course's of math, extreme advanced science theories, channeling, occult drama, and a thousand more ideas's humans have considered to explain things.

The same way people make Pro's & Con's lists, I try to keep one foot in science fact & the other noting "truths" that match up with the high strangeness events I've personally experienced. Third list is what others have experienced. Just because I haven't doesn't mean it theoretically can't happen. Forewarned is forearmed, stick a pin in it just in case. 
Adding a huge dollop of common sense keeps the headaches & ulcers to a dull roar.
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