Nigal Farage Stands Down As MP To Trigger By-Election

[quintessentone]

Journalists and the public(me) discussing a situation are not deciding guilt.

They are expressing opinions based on available information.

A jury is different because it hears tested evidence, cross-examination, and legal instructions.

All those things Farage would rather avoid like the plague...

And it reaches a decision based only on what is proven in court.

Criticising or questioning a public figure before an investigation concludes is not the same as acting as judge and executioner.

Im entitled to my opinion, the same as yourself. 

You're perfectly safe i would not be asked to be on any jury due to past transgressions.

Not to mention im not a Canadian citizen, so...

I never said they were the deciding factor, I mentioned them only that 'opinions are like as***, everyone's got one" especially when the facts or truths are not even available yet.

LOL

It should go to court and let them argue it out. Who knows, maybe improvements in security measures and exposing the lack of effective counterterrorism measures will be brought into the light.

[andy06shake]

I never said they were the deciding factor, I mentioned them only that 'opinions are like as***, everyone's got one" especially when the facts or truths are not even available yet.

LOL

It should go to court and let them argue it out. Who knows, maybe improvements in security measures and exposing the lack of effective counterterrorism measures will be brought into the light.

It would need to reach a court first, Quint.

Farage shut down the parliamentary investigation by way of his let's quit my elected position shenanigans...

Whether it should go to court, or even what he should be charged with, is up to that investigation to decide.

None of which changes, what, or who Farage is, where his money comes from, or the shady business dealings, he, and his for want of a better word ""political party""" are embroiled in...

I mean, you do know who funds these clowns for the most part? 



That would be these 3, amongst others, just like them...

[Oldcarpy2]

There is an investigation by Parliamentary Standards, paused for the moment as he stepped down, also an ongoing investigation by Scotland Yard over allegation of false information to evade donation rules and the NCA is investigating alleged money laundering.

[andy06shake]

There is an investigation by Parliamentary Standards, paused for the moment as he stepped down, also an ongoing investigation by Scotland Yard over allegation of false information to evade donation rules and the NCA is investigating alleged money laundering.

And if he is reelected, it's reopened/unpaused. 

As far as im aware, the ongoing investigation about allegations of false information to evade donation rules and money laundering is a separate issue.

Although arguably they overlap.

Because they both concern political money and his party. 

Money from Fiona Cottrell, was it not? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3eyq2np7qgo

[quintessentone]

There is an investigation by Parliamentary Standards, paused for the moment as he stepped down, also an ongoing investigation by Scotland Yard over allegation of false information to evade donation rules and the NCA is investigating alleged money laundering.

So with the ongoing investigations it shouldn't take too long to get the evidence to go to trial or not go to trial, I would expect.

[andy06shake]

So with the ongoing investigations it shouldn't take too long to get the evidence to go to trial or not go to trial, I would expect.

My wee Granny would have called the fella a "slippery kipper."

Who knows? 

In a perfect world maybe...

This one im not so sure.

They tend to just dance between the raindrops of justice if they have the correct people behind them.

[ArMaP]

He wasn't a politician in office at the time and he needed the money for security. Desperate times call for desperate measures when one's government does not care whether you live or die after serving.

LOL Biased much?

If I'm not mistake, he was a member of the European Parliament at the time, so he was an active politician more or less representing the UK.

I don't know how things are in the UK, but does people have to declare donations as part of their income for tax purposes? In Portugal we have, if it's more than 500€, I think.

[Oldcarpy2]

Yes Andy.

The NCA one is about Harborne.

[andy06shake]

Ta.

[quintessentone]

If I'm not mistake, he was a member of the European Parliament at the time, so he was an active politician more or less representing the UK.

I don't know how things are in the UK, but does people have to declare donations as part of their income for tax purposes? In Portugal we have, if it's more than 500€, I think.

I don't think he was a member then...and I read somewhere else that he only decided to run for office after he received the money so he could bolster his security to allow him to run and do what he needed to do publicly.

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"The money was received in early 2024, before he became an member of parliament, but new MPs are required register all their financial interests received in the 12 months before their election.
 There is an exemption for gifts received in a purely personal capacity, and Farage has defended accepting the cash on these grounds. He has said the donation was a “personal, unconditional gift.”"

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"Farage is facing fresh accusations he failed to declare gifts and donations from another crypto entrepreneur. George Cottrell, who spent time in an Arizona prison after pleading guilty to wire fraud, funded the Reform UK leader’s private security, staff, transport, and accommodation in the year before he was elected to the Commons, the Sunday Times newspaper reported over the weekend.
 
Farage also reportedly stayed at 32-year-old Cottrell’s five-story home near Buckingham Palace.
The Reform UK leader said in a statement to the Daily Express newspaper Sunday night: “I have done no wrongdoing, followed the rules and I am now considering legal action against The Sunday Times.
“It’s now clear the establishment will stop at nothing to hurt Reform – we want to smash their cosy consensus.”"

https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-fa...pto-gifts/