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01-23-2026, 01:50 PM
This post was last modified: 01-23-2026, 01:57 PM by Kurokage. 
(01-23-2026, 01:17 PM)Knows Wrote: Has pure nicotine without anything else added. Proven to be addictive?
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Pure nicotine, on its own, is recognized as an addictive substance, though its addictive potential is significantly lower than when consumed via tobacco products. While nicotine stimulates the brain's reward system, studies suggest pure nicotine is only weakly addictive on its own compared to the high, rapid addiction associated with tobacco smoking, which involves other chemicals. Key findings regarding pure nicotine addiction:- Addiction Potential: Pure nicotine is addictive and can cause withdrawal symptoms, but it is not the sole cause of smoking-related diseases.
- Evidence of Weak Addiction: Research indicates that without the additives in tobacco, nicotine is only weakly addictive, and studies with nicotine patches showed little to no addiction in patients over six months.
- Role of Other Factors: The high addiction rates from smoking are often due to the combination of nicotine with other compounds found in tobacco smoke, such as monoamine oxidase inhibitors.
- Dependence: Although addictive, it is possible to stop using pure nicotine, and millions of people successfully quit nicotine use annually.
Evidence of Weak Addiction: Research indicates that without the additives in tobacco, nicotine is only weakly addictive, and studies with nicotine patches showed little to no addiction in patients over six months.
Yet you should a few pages back....
Quote:Exactly wrong. The study said they could not addict any animals to nicotine alone. They had to add chemicals like pyrazines etc to make them addictive.
Make your mind on which study you think is correct, or whether or not you think nicotine alone is addictive.
Here, to give you a little help other than A.I.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/resear...-addictive
Quote:The pharmacokinetic properties of nicotine, or the way it is processed by the body, contribute to its addictiveness.[sup]24[/sup] When cigarette smoke enters the lungs, nicotine is absorbed rapidly in the blood and delivered quickly to the brain, so that nicotine levels peak within 10 seconds of inhalation. But the acute effects of nicotine also dissipate quickly, along with the associated feelings of reward; this rapid cycle causes the smoker to continue dosing to maintain the drug's pleasurable effects and prevent withdrawal symptoms.[sup]30[/sup]
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01-23-2026, 02:20 PM
This post was last modified: 01-23-2026, 02:36 PM by Knows. 
Still. Animal and human studies using pure nicotine. With patches or gum. Prove nicotine by itself is not addictive. I don't care about someones opinion. "It's thought to be" nonsense. I want real science.
Show me the animals studies on pure nicotine addiction. You can't.
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(10-19-2025, 01:29 AM)covent Wrote: I've often wondered why (in UK at least), people are limited in how much tobacco they can grow before registering to pay tax on it.
We can grow as much as we like in UK.. Just can't sell it.
Seeds readily available on Ebay.
I grew 12 plants last year, lasted me 5 months.. considerably heavy use 5 months as it was all free..
Just took my time to grow it all in my garden :)
Planning on more this year with the seeds from my crop..
Don't have to buy seeds now..
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(01-23-2026, 02:22 PM)Extralien Wrote: We can grow as much as we like in UK.. Just can't sell it.
Seeds readily available on Ebay.
I grew 12 plants last year, lasted me 5 months.. considerably heavy use 5 months as it was all free..
Just took my time to grow it all in my garden :)
Planning on more this year with the seeds from my crop..
Don't have to buy seeds now..
I might be doing that in the future to make tincture. Do you notice an addiction just by smoking it? Could be somewhat addictive only because of the chemicals in the smoke itself. That's why I use patches and gum for over a year. I notice no addiction.
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(01-23-2026, 02:35 PM)Knows Wrote: I might be doing that in the future to make tincture. Do you notice an addiction just by smoking it? Could be somewhat addictive only because of the chemicals in the smoke itself. That's why I use patches and gum for over a year. I notice no addiction.
I'm not quite sure.. yet.. :)
Due to it all being new experience and I've been smoking for a long time so habit may have had a big play in it, I was rolling cigar sized instead of the match sticks I usually pay for.. :)
That said, I did feel a TONNE of relief lift off my shoulders..
Most probably the financial freedom.
Also, I was able to breath clealry and freely through both nostrils. Didn't wake up needing to clear my nose in the mornings.
Little things like that made a huge difference.
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(01-23-2026, 02:22 PM)Extralien Wrote: We can grow as much as we like in UK.. Just can't sell it.
Seeds readily available on Ebay.
I grew 12 plants last year, lasted me 5 months.. considerably heavy use 5 months as it was all free..
Just took my time to grow it all in my garden :)
Planning on more this year with the seeds from my crop..
Don't have to buy seeds now..
Can I ask you which variety of tobacco you planted?
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(01-25-2026, 01:30 PM)chivo Wrote: Can I ask you which variety of tobacco you planted?
Certainly :)
I had your standard Golden Virginia and Amber leaf..
There was another , can't recall it, but it got swamped by caterp[illars as it was still growing
They killed it..
I see some Tennessee seeds on Fleebay.. :)
approx $5 for 2000 seeds.
But pay your TAXES.. LOL :)
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01-29-2026, 10:46 AM
This post was last modified: 01-29-2026, 10:53 AM by Kurokage. 
(01-23-2026, 02:20 PM)Knows Wrote: Still. Animal and human studies using pure nicotine. With patches or gum. Prove nicotine by itself is not addictive. I don't care about someones opinion. "It's thought to be" nonsense. I want real science.
Show me the animals studies on pure nicotine addiction. You can't. 
Sorry to prove you wrong again my friend, Nicotine patches and gum are a purified version of tabaco give at smaller doses to reduce cravings....
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Quote:A meta-analysis of five randomized controlled trials showed that 0.81 times the use of nicotine gum did not help smokers quit smoking compared with placebo (OR 0.81; 95% CI 0.48 to 2.12; p = 0.400). Conclusion: Nicotine gum does not help smokers to quit smoking. Roni Hartono.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6795520/
Quote:The health harms of combusted tobacco use are undeniable. With market and regulatory pressures to reduce the harms of nicotine delivery by combustion, the tobacco product landscape has diversified to include smokeless, heated, and electronic nicotine vaping products. Products of tobacco combustion are the main cause of smoking-induced disease, and nicotine addiction sustains tobacco use. An understanding of the biology and clinical features of nicotine addiction and the conditioning of behavior that occurs via stimuli paired with frequent nicotine dosing, as with a smoked cigarette, is important for informing pharmacologic and behavioral treatment targets. We review current advances in research on nicotine addiction treatment and recovery, with a focus on conventional combustible cigarette use. Our review covers evidence-based methods to treat smoking in adults and policy approaches to prevent nicotine product initiation in youth. In closing, we discuss emerging areas of evidence and consider new directions for advancing the field.
https://www.nicorette.com/why-quit-smoki...addictive/
Quote:Nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) seeks to reduce a person’s motivation to consume tobacco and the mental, physical and emotional withdrawal symptoms through delivery of a controlled amount of nicotine.[sup]5[/sup] Many clinical guidelines recommend NRT as a first line treatment for people seeking help to stop smoking or using tobacco products.[sup]5[/sup] There are a few types of NRT medications that are available over the counter to help you quit smoking: gum, lozenges and patches. These products are therapeutic forms of nicotine and are intended to help you manage your withdrawal symptoms as you quit smoking. Knowing how much nicotine is in the tobacco products you previously used can help you choose the NRT products that are right for you so that you can taper your usage correctly:[sup]6[/sup]
- Nicorette Gum comes in a variety of flavors and helps to provide relief for the oral fixation commonly associated with smoking. This gum is available with either 2mg or 4mg of nicotine, per piece of gum.
- Nicorette Lozenges are meant to discreetly dissolve in your mouth over time. They are available in 3 different varieties, and each lozenge contains either 2mg or 4mg of nicotine.
- NicoDerm CQ Patches uses a clear patch to release a steady flow of nicotine throughout the day to help manage cravings. There are three different strengths that allow a user to taper their nicotine dependency. The strongest patch delivers 21mg of nicotine during the course of the day. The middle patch has 14mg of nicotine. And the patch with the least amount of nicotine contains only 7mg.
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(01-29-2026, 10:46 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Sorry to prove you wrong again my friend, Nicotine patches and gum are a purified version of tabaco give at smaller doses to reduce cravings....
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6795520/
https://www.nicorette.com/why-quit-smoki...addictive/

No. They are nicotine with nothing but necessary ingredients. You are spreading misinformation.
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