(01-17-2026, 12:43 AM)NoCorruptionAllowed Wrote: I laugh at this interpretation, because ICE agents have not tear gassed or peppered anyone being peaceful, since most or not peaceful.
They absolutely have.
Tear gas is not that specific or controllable. If it is used against a crowd of people with a few malefactors in the crowd, it has affected more than just those few miscreants. It
has been used on peaceful protestors in almost every case where it is employed.
Quote:Throwing stuff at ICE isn't peaceful, yelling in their face is not peaceful either. Blocking their vehicles is not peaceful.
A protest where there is no violence or property damage is a peaceful protest.
If a crowd of people throw confetti or water, that is
not disturbing the peace.
And surely a protest by its nature seeks to be heard and seen?
Crowds express themselves noisily at sporting events, should they all be arrested for it? Of course not!
Peace does not mean silence. The cliché saying "peace and quiet" refers to two different things "peace"
and "quiet".
One can find peace in a roaring waterfall, or a cacophony of birdsong at dawn. Peace officers don't go around shusshing everyone. Peace is an attitude of heart.
Quote:Interfering with them attempting to detain known felons subject to legal deportation orders is also not peaceful.
But ICE agents rarely ever do that. Look at their statistics. Most of the people they have arrested have committed no crime and very many have been legally US citizens.
Also, in physical conflicts ICE
have been invariably the most violent, injuring and killing people who have been legally US citizens.
People interfering with such illegal ICE overreach are arguably ensuring that the laws are
not being abused.
Quote:The judge's order is a moot point and worthless.
Another instance of an activist judge pandering to radicalized democrats (that is most all of them right now).
A judge has authority under the law to make judgements about the law and in a three branch system, judges have the right, power and authority to veto even the President! They have to, to maintain the balance. Their pronouncements aren't moot.
The fact that judges are in majority agreeing on decisions against ICE and the President, indicates how poorly ICE and the President are serving the law and the people - how many times ICE and the President are
not conformant to the laws.
Quote:Maybe these judges are getting or hoping for kickbacks from the fraud money that is still being hidden in some back room. They are issuing bogus orders ICE can ignore, and I hope they do ignore them. I want these violent criminals deported and so do a large majority of Americans.
If judges are making judgements against them, and ICE are the ones being the most violent. are you expecting ICE to deport themselves?
Quote:I went through the legal way for my wife to immigrate and we had to pay a few thousand dollars for it. She's a citizen now.
These illegals are a slap in the face to everyone who follows the lawful path.
Congratulations to your family, I trust you will be happy and I hope God blesses you, but if your wife had tried to immigrate by herself, now, with Trumps massive reductions to those allowed in, and with the numbers trying the 'legal' way, how likely do you think it would be that you would be a family?
How much do you think it costs someone to get from South America to the US on foot by themselves? Or paying a coyote? How about a family? How do they get food and water? How do they wash and toilet? How do they accommodate themselves? How do they get health care if they get sick or injured? And how do they avoid officials all along the way? Seems very difficult, risky, and probably expensive to me.
When people are desperate for a better life they will do all sorts of things, and try anything to work around things. Can you blame them for that? They aren't
all hardened criminals.