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"Bravery"
A strong word to describe thrill-seeking (and the occasional career-resurrection,) what did we expect this particular crew was to "accomplish?"
The crew's mission... Survive?
Then I suppose Laika was brave too.
Truthfully this stinks of stunt...
They shouldn't feel offended...
That's the media's effective "narrative" - "It's all about <insert a label like 'women'> and show women celebrities."
[The "media" edifice crumbles, and they continue doing the same thing...
expecting different results...
(and blaming 'stupid' us, by the way.)
When they fall upon each other, it will be a bloodbath... I pray figuratively.]
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I have to uncomfortably agree with conservative pundits again...
And that's hard, because any time I hear "All female flight crew set to make historic journey" I'm certainly not opposed to the premise, and I actually feel somewhat bad to have the criticism I do. I don't like bringing the rain cloud over appearances of girl power.
And It really was historic in being the first time 6 women were above The Kármán line at once in a single craft. Part of a record for most women in space at once. If you add Jennifer Buchli and Mehgan Everett (Chief and Deputy Chief Scientist ISS) it marked the first time 8 women were in space at once. But I don't think the 2 on the ISS would consider the other 6 their trained equals.
Even saying the first "all female crew" since The USSR launched a single cosmonaut in 1963 doesn't seem fully fair.
It feels like a Family Guy joke waiting to happen...
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(04-16-2025, 01:57 PM)Maxmars Wrote: "Bravery"
A strong word to describe thrill-seeking (and the occasional career-resurrection,) what did we expect this particular crew was to "accomplish?"
The crew's mission... Survive?
Then I suppose Laika was brave too.
Truthfully this stinks of stunt...
They shouldn't feel offended...
That's the media's effective "narrative" - "It's all about <insert a label like 'women'> and show women celebrities."
[The "media" edifice crumbles, and they continue doing the same thing...
expecting different results...
(and blaming 'stupid' us, by the way.)
When they fall upon each other, it will be a bloodbath... I pray figuratively.]
Yeah "bravery". I know I'd think twice or not at all taking that flight.
There were two scientists among those women...conveniently forgotten.
Anyway, I'm on the side of the people and astronauts touting this as being inspiring for kids and the kids that are inspired.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(04-16-2025, 02:19 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: I have to uncomfortably agree with conservative pundits again...
And that's hard, because any time I hear "All female flight crew set to make historic journey" I'm certainly not opposed to the premise, and I actually feel somewhat bad to have the criticism I do. I don't like bringing the rain cloud over appearances of girl power.
And It really was historic in being the first time 6 women were above The Kármán line at once in a single craft. Part of a record for most women in space at once. If you add Jennifer Buchli and Mehgan Everett (Chief and Deputy Chief Scientist ISS) it marked the first time 8 women were in space at once. But I don't think the 2 on the ISS would consider the other 6 their trained equals.
Even saying the first "all female crew" since The USSR launched a single cosmonaut in 1963 doesn't seem fully fair.
It feels like a Family Guy joke waiting to happen...
[Video: https://youtu.be/NfhHFRYB6ew?si=uuUCk_gN6IjQVrmO]
Hey, you do you and no apologies.
I will do me and no apologies.
Here's to girl power.
"The only journey is the one within."
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Astronaut Wimmer's opinion:
"Astronaut Per Wimmer says the Blue Origin’s upcoming all-women flight has the power to inspire more women to pursue space exploration."
He claims technically, all six women can now be classified as astronauts.
"The only journey is the one within."
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why i think bezos laughing, "ha i got six women to ride my rocket at once and they all say it was inspirational"
he control media you know. sick fuck.
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(04-16-2025, 03:03 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: why i think bezos laughing, "ha i got six women to ride my rocket at once and they all say it was inspirational"
he control media you know. sick fuck.
I haven't seen any media of him because I'm not looking. I am focused on what astronauts, the six women who took the flight, kids that are inspired by them, and others have to say about it.
The fact of the matter is, kids were inspired by those women, so it's not a laughing matter.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(04-16-2025, 02:38 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Yeah "bravery". I know I'd think twice or not at all taking that flight.
There were two scientists among those women...conveniently forgotten.
Anyway, I'm on the side of the people and astronauts touting this as being inspiring for kids and the kids that are inspired.
Believe me, I know it took real courage to go.
And even if not, they all learned what "really intense" means to astronauts.
The media focused on the celebrities... a shame.
I have no doubt the scientists had a purpose...
My beef is with how this is presented... not with the flight crew.
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04-17-2025, 07:47 AM
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(04-16-2025, 03:33 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Believe me, I know it took real courage to go.
And even if not, they all learned what "really intense" means to astronauts.
The media focused on the celebrities... a shame.
I have no doubt the scientists had a purpose...
My beef is with how this is presented... not with the flight crew.
Sorry, there was only one scientist, one film maker and one activist while the others were celebrity figures.
The whole thing is that it was not so much a mission as space tourism where each individual woman was dealing with their own separate thing, be that to just experience that part of Earth's atmosphere and space, or to find a deeper meaning of our place in the universe, or to face a fear, etc.
Blue Origin is a business and as such businesses exist to make money .
Did you know William Shatner's ride was free?
Did you also know that New Shepherd is solely piloted by a computer and there is no built in mechanism for any passenger to reprogram it (HAL from 2001: A Space Odyssey comes to mind). Another good reason to think twice and have a reasonable position of doubt.
These women (role models) did inspire many girls to think beyond the societal constraints and that's a "thumb's up" IMO.
So some people are pissed that these women can be called astronauts, well the existing definition is going up 50 km, these women went up 62 km...so perhaps the definition needs to be changed because that definition was created without any envisioning of space tourism.
"The only journey is the one within."
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