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New Jersey UFOs Dec 2024
#21
(12-10-2024, 03:07 PM)putnam6 Wrote: FWIW I keep hearing speculations the drones are ours military and or intelligence and they are searching for chemical, radiation, or high explosives.

Or possibly it's just enhanced public safety surveillance

yeah i looked into that pic that was going around showing the spike in background radiation at the edison nj location right before the things started being seen in the sky last month. did a dive on it and the long term data shows similar spikes in the summer this year. didn't try to correlate the long term data.

so scanning for dirty rad seems plausible, but doesn't explain the weirdtech behaviour in some sightings. makes sense that if there were weird showups from uap, then the govmt response would be to paper the area with drones, spam helicopter and powerline false sighting stories, etc., to bury the actual weird stuff in confusion and give a plausible explanation path, eg secret govmt activity, chinaspy, or so on.

oh and now the sightings have moved into newyork and delaware? mmmk.

edit to add: you can check out the rad stuff here i downloaded the year's data for edison nj and graphed it but there's historical data there too i didn't bother getting in to but maybe someone should:

current data: https://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-near-r...e-air-data
historical data: https://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-csv-file-downloads#NJ

just graphed 2023 and there's some interesting spikes there too. dunno if it matters. but shows the nov spike wasn't unprecedented afaik.

here is 2023-2024:
[Image: Screenshot_2024-12-10_12-37-40.png]
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#22
My money is on a DHS program being tested
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#23
(12-10-2024, 03:15 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: yeah i looked into that pic that was going around showing the spike in background radiation at the edison nj location right before the things started being seen in the sky last month. did a dive on it and the long term data shows similar spikes in the summer this year. didn't try to correlate the long term data.

so scanning for dirty rad seems plausible, but doesn't explain the weirdtech behaviour in some sightings. makes sense that if there were weird showups from uap, then the govmt response would be to paper the area with drones, spam helicopter and powerline false sighting stories, etc., to bury the actual weird stuff in confusion and give a plausible explanation path, eg secret govmt activity, chinaspy, or so on.

oh and now the sightings have moved into newyork and delaware? mmmk.

edit to add: you can check out the rad stuff here i downloaded the year's data for edison nj and graphed it but there's historical data there too i didn't bother getting in to but maybe someone should:

current data: https://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-near-r...e-air-data
historical data: https://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-csv-file-downloads#NJ

just graphed 2023 and there's some interesting spikes there too. dunno if it matters. but shows the nov spike wasn't unprecedented afaik.

here is 2023-2024:
[Image: Screenshot_2024-12-10_12-37-40.png]

Here's the thing a speaker just testified about drone tech, this is nothing new Ukraine has been the de facto proving grounds for drone tech since Russia SMO began.

I find it difficult to believe after almost 3 years DoD or Intelligence hasn't captured or gleaned any information about drone surveillance or countermeasures. These have to be known by TPTB no way no how would a competent administration let unknown or foreign surveillance tech survive this long? 

the "drones" being ours is the only logical answer
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(12-10-2024, 06:37 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Here's the thing a speaker just testified about drone tech, this is nothing new Ukraine has been the de facto proving grounds for drone tech since Russia SMO began.

I find it difficult to believe after almost 3 years DoD or Intelligence hasn't captured or gleaned any information about drone surveillance or countermeasures. These have to be known by TPTB no way no how would a competent administration let unknown or foreign surveillance tech survive this long? 

the "drones" being ours is the only logical answer

But but but if it's Chyna or scary aliens then we should have our own drones regularly patrolling American skies lest they steal our freedom!

Oh won't somebody do something!
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(12-10-2024, 06:37 PM)putnam6 Wrote: These have to be known by TPTB no way no how would a competent administration let unknown or foreign surveillance tech survive this long? 

the "drones" being ours is the only logical answer

Well, if they aren't ours definitely be curious to know why they aren't being intercepted in some way.
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#26
Here’s another interesting one. They say three but bottom one is obvious plane. Keep watch as later clips are more interesting. The red and white coming together reminds me of Spielberg Close Encounters movie.

Twitter video.

so these locals putting lights on drones and hoaxing? Real UFOs?

maybe a mix?

still feels underlying like this is set up to undermine all the real UFOs being seen around the world in mass numbers right now.
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#27
Update:
Quote:State Sen. Jon Bramnick on Monday urged the state to implement a limited state of emergency “until the public receives an explanation” for the flights. As part of the emergency declaration, Bramnick said, all drone flights should be banned.

One goes over and then another," one resident said. "It’s not two or three a night, it’s 30 or 50 a night."

One of the drones grounded a medevac helicopter that needed to airlift an injured patient to a nearby hospital. Murphy described the craft as “very sophisticated” during a Monday press conference. “The minute you get eyes on them, they go dark,” he said.


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#28
"One family claims they followed a drone in their car, and while it hovered above them, the clock in their car changed times. Then they say the clock went back to normal after they drove off."

https://x.com/RonyVernet/status/1864806460892303390

This is interesting. Perhaps the result of GPS spoofing, changing the perceived time zone? Similar things were reported happening outside Mossad headquarters in Tel Aviv, if I recall correctly, the GPS suddenly appeared to show them hundreds of miles away.

The report from the Governor about the disappearing as soon as they "got eyes" on them is also curious. I wonder if he's talking passive optics or some active system? Detecting the former would be very impressive!
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#29
Could these craft possibly be not of this Earth?
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#30
(12-10-2024, 09:49 PM)CCoburn Wrote: Could these craft possibly be not of this Earth?

Is that rhetorical? Where do you think you are, buddy? One of those crazy websites?

Actually, it would be hilarious for aliens to hide their UFOs as, say, Cessnas or hobbyist drones. Or perhaps they could shroud them in Mylar party balloon shaped like dinosaurs. I really really want ET to have a sense of humour.

Edit: I can see the headlines now: "Giant Penis-Shaped Balloon Hovers Over Trump White House". That would be one for the history books. Thumbup
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