Multiple Russian Tu-95 bombers burning a massive Ukrainian FPV drone strike

[Kurokage]

Russia was ready to end the war and withdraw its troops in exchange for Ukrainian neutrality just a few months after the invasion began and was refused partly because of ex-British PM Boris Johnson, who pressured Kyiv into continuing the fight, David Arahamiya, the leader of Ukraine’s ruling party confirmed in a recent interview, published on Friday, November 24th.

https://europeanconservative.com/article...eace-deal/

As I said, this could have ended years ago but third party greedy MIC kuntz were playing their usual money game.  UK, EU, NATO.  WIthout boogieman Russia they are nothing.  If there is peace, no reason to exist.

You've seemed to forgotten about Putins Crimea invasion?? I also think you meant to say it could have ended quickly if Ukraine politely bent over for Putin and smiled.  

[sahgwa]

Now Putin demands NATO withdraw from the Baltics. I've said it all along, Putin's expansion plans include the Baltics. It's plain for everyone to see what's happening here.

barebones response:
whataboutism related to putins evil USSR expansionism

personal response related to NATO expansion in the 90s and early 2000s and how my family worked on this.
reiteration i dont support either sde

peace could have happened years ago. its too late now apparently.
not even trump cares anymore since they all have shown their true colours.

russia is not stupid enough to try to 'expand' into the baltic. just project influence.
the same way NATO projects influence into Poland, Ukraine, (used to be) Georgia, Romania, its just coincidentally a big circle around a certain country.

there is no black and white innocent side
just idiots pushing for profit and death, at this point

[Oldcarpy2]

Russia was ready to end the war and withdraw its troops in exchange for Ukrainian neutrality just a few months after the invasion began and was refused partly because of ex-British PM Boris Johnson, who pressured Kyiv into continuing the fight, David Arahamiya, the leader of Ukraine’s ruling party confirmed in a recent interview, published on Friday, November 24th.

https://europeanconservative.com/article...eace-deal/

As I said, this could have ended years ago but third party greedy MIC kuntz were playing their usual money game.  UK, EU, NATO.  WIthout boogieman Russia they are nothing.  If there is peace, no reason to exist.

According to your guy:

https://newins.ru/en/articles/ukraine/da...n_politics


"Also, it is thanks to Arahamia's vanity that we know about Boris Johnson's role in the further continuation of the war: "When we returned from Istanbul, Boris Johnson came to Kiev and said that we would not sign anything with them at all, and let's just fight. We created a group of security advisers for these partner countries, but we gave them information in a dosed manner from the point of view of the information lag so that it would not spill out simply. You saw that everything was quite discrete, because we were dosing. They knew everything, especially when we had already drafted some documents, they had access to all the documents, and we consulted, of course, because we understood that we could not win the war ourselves. Therefore, we need to consult with them on this issue. They actually advised us not to go for any ephemeral security guarantees, which were impossible at that time to give at all."    Such a light-hearted attitude towards the continuation of the war (that is, the constant death of the inhabitants of Ukraine) is explained by several facts. Arahamiya himself received a Ukrainian passport only in 2015. However, before that he already had American and Israeli citizenship. In a certain sense, everything that this "mediator" between America and Kiev is doing in current politics can be compared to Trotsky's role during the civil war — as destructive as possible and the continuation of the conflict in any case in exchange for guarantees of departure and a "safe life"."

[quintessentone]

barebones response:
whataboutism related to putins evil USSR expansionism

personal response related to NATO expansion in the 90s and early 2000s and how my family worked on this.
reiteration i dont support either sde

peace could have happened years ago. its too late now apparently.
not even trump cares anymore since they all have shown their true colours.

russia is not stupid enough to try to 'expand' into the baltic. just project influence.
the same way NATO projects influence into Poland, Ukraine, (used to be) Georgia, Romania, its just coincidentally a big circle around a certain country.

there is no black and white innocent side
just idiots pushing for profit and death, at this point

The Baltics include Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania and there is history there with Russia. Look it up.

[sahgwa]

The Baltics include Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania and there is history there with Russia. Look it up.

I know and Russia would never be stupid enough to invade them militarily.

[quintessentone]

I know and Russia would never be stupid enough to invade them militarily.

He has to get through Ukraine first.

[Oldcarpy2]

I'm no fan of Boris, but this guff about him supposedly sabotaging peace negotiations is pure Russian propaganda:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/185...peace-deal

"A few weeks after Ms Zakharova's allegations, Mr Johnson told The Times: "This is nothing but total nonsense and Russian propaganda." Mr Johnson, who visited Kyiv in April 2022 and walked through the streets of the war-torn city alongside Mr Zelensky, opened up on his discussions with the Ukrainian President in the wake of the peace talks in Istanbul.

After saying he had pledged to Mr Zelensky that Britain would support Ukraine "a thousand percent", he told The Wall Street Journal: "I was a bit worried at that stage. I could not see for the life of me what the deal could be, and I thought that any deal with Putin was going to be pretty sordid." After Mr Johnson’s visit to Kyiv, Downing Street said that he had "urged against any negotiations with Russia on terms that gave credence to the Kremlin’s false narrative for the invasion, but stressed that this was a decision for the Ukrainian government".

[sahgwa]

He has to get through Ukraine first.

No he doesn't ; you are forgetting about Belarus which would allow troops. 
You're also forgetting about Kaliningrad, something useful could be done with that.
At any rate this conversation is moot because it's based on MSM inspired fearmongering, which itself is based on money-grubbing propaganda.

[Oldcarpy2]

No he doesn't ; you are forgetting about Belarus which would allow troops. 
You're also forgetting about Kaliningrad, something useful could be done with that.
At any rate this conversation is moot because it's based on MSM inspired fearmongering, which itself is based on money-grubbing propaganda.

Like that from your boy:

David Arahamiya.

See above.

[sahgwa]

Like that from your boy:

David Arahamiya.

See above.

I am not sure why this stranger is my boy, but he is a member of Ukrainian parliament, so I think he would want peace more than a foreign politician would. If he says someone sabotaged peace talks then I would trust him over someone protesting their innocence 2 years later? 
None of this is any use in changing minds.
I dont think Putin should have invaded, but I am not going to disregard Western prodding for war either.