"Most Controversial Clip on the Internet Right Now"

[chivo]

Hi. So I found on the tube this video about people debating genetics differences and whatnot, the subject is not as important, what I find interesting is how two apparently intelligent and normally able people can be so distant in their perception of what is true and what is false (or incorrect), or to put it in a different way, their perception of reality.

I found also valuable some conclusions of the streamer who is posting the video, on how the social trends, corporate interests and political views influence the minds of the vulnerable and basically turns them in propaganda spreading useful numbskulls (last four words are mine).

I was interested in the opinions of the members of this wonderful platform Deny Ignorance, since we usually have so many disagreements concerning gender, politics and corporate backed scientific research.

Take a look, video is short and I think also worth the time.




Thanks

[UltraBudgie]

I don't really believe in genetics, it seems like a fad, but I think this clip shows an important point.

Look how cloistered he is and how he just starts sputtering when confronted with someone who doesn't automatically agree with him. She on the other hand remains calm and collected. His idea of scientific sources seems to be saying "literally", which doesn't quote cut it.

She probably isn't totally right though, because things like Tay-Sachs and Sickle Cells are definitely more common in blacks, and those also have genetic expressions too if I remember correctly.

Who is the Ren-Faire girl? Is this a tradwife thing?

[Good Bacteria]

Remaining calm and collected doesn't equate to being more on the right side about something. People spend far too much time worrying about what others think, say or do.

Like this 'most controversial clip on the internet right now'. Funny, for many including myself, this is the first time I'm hearing about this because not every little fkn thing that people think, say or do is relevant or relatable in my life. I don't seek to waste my time debating others on subjects that have been literally beaten into oblivion.

[UltraBudgie]

Here is an article about these... interesting... people:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle...ne-collins

And oh look they have a podcast!

https://www.youtube.com/@SimoneandMalcolm/videos

[chivo]

I don't really believe in genetics, it seems like a fad, but I think this clip shows an important point.

Look how cloistered he is and how he just starts sputtering when confronted with someone who doesn't automatically agree with him. She on the other hand remains calm and collected. His idea of scientific sources seems to be saying "literally", which doesn't quote cut it.

She probably isn't totally right though, because things like Tay-Sachs and Sickle Cells are definitely more common in blacks, and those also have genetic expressions too if I remember correctly.

Who is the Ren-Faire girl? Is this a tradwife thing?

Like I said before the video is less about genetics and more about people not willing to agree on basic things, with the argument that everything is a social construct. Discussion could be about gender, politics or the colour of the sky. The point being made by the streamer is that this belief that everything is on people's minds and nothing is real is used by the eventual powers to maintain control of large numbers of people by making them feel as if they are more intelligent or advanced than their outdated more conservative neighbors. More "progressed " than their stagnated counterparts.

Also I don't think the woman saying nonsense and staying calm says anything about the accuracy of her statements, she's probably just numb to criticism by now.

I don't know about the trad-wife thing? You could also say the woman on the discussion is having a "ambiguous gender clothing" going on too? Or nah, I don't know
Thanks for stopping by!

[chivo]

Remaining calm and collected doesn't equate to being more on the right side about something. People spend far too much time worrying about what others think, say or do.

Like this 'most controversial clip on the internet right now'. Funny, for many including myself, this is the first time I'm hearing about this because not every little fkn thing that people think, say or do is relevant or relatable in my life. I don't seek to waste my time debating others on subjects that have been literally beaten into oblivion.

I know the title of the video is click baity but it was the title so... It stays as it is. No i don't think this is even remotely important. Like you said this has been beaten to oblivion but I found interesting how people having a discussion can put aside reason and logic and all the while act like they know better. I mean it's not acting she truly believes what she's saying, like with people saying men conceptually and technically can get pregnant somehow, In a mental plane I guess. Or on paper? Don't know.

Cheers good bacteria thanks for sharing

[chivo]

Here is an article about these... interesting... people:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle...ne-collins

And oh look they have a podcast!

https://www.youtube.com/@SimoneandMalcolm/videos

Off topic but... I didn't know about these guys, the "pro natalists". May I ask what is that you find interesting about them?

[UltraBudgie]

Off topic but... I didn't know about these guys, the "pro natalists". May I ask what is that you find interesting about them?

Lots! The bit about nominal determinism, their parenting techniques, why they live in Valley Forge, their take on effective altruism, etc. I didn't know about them until you mentioned them in this thread and I did some research.

I had a longer reply but the battery on this notebook ran out and ate it.

More to the topic, the interviewer seems to see race as more than phenotypical, and is objecting to the idea that cultural and behavioural expressions are a result of genetics. Which isn't quite the point he's trying to make; they seem to be talking about two different things. She probably sees his resort to genetic explanation as having the same level of validity as phrenology. Yes, people have different shaped heads. Yes, people have different strands of DNA that can be measured. So what?

Is the interviewer mulatto? This may also be about her journey of personal identification. Being as validly "Black" (or whatever the heck she identifies as) as anyone else. If so, I can't fault that, but she'd do well to make it clear.

[UltraBudgie]

Oh-ho! I was wondering if I used the term "mulatto" correctly, so I googled it. Up came this from Encyclopedia Britannica:

"mulatto, a person of mixed white and Black ancestry. The term mulatto is a legacy of attempts to establish taxonomies of race, a concept that science has shown to be socially constructed and to have no biological basis."

https://www.britannica.com/topic/mulatto-people

I think maybe I've stumbled on the explanation for this...

[andy06shake]

Guess that's what happens when your wife is also your sister. 

Stupid racist white supremacists. 

He says "Gineticly" at 1:12, so he can't even get simple words correct.  

Any two humans are about 99.9% genetically identical, so...