More than 50 countries have reached out to the President to begin tariff negotiations

[quintessentone]

All Im suggesting is the left can't help themselves and are making the same mistakes they did his 1st term. 

As for fulfilling promises, why do you think his polling is so high? The left's constant attacks have grown Trump's base significantly, Republicans who shunned him 4 years ago are now saying, let him cook after the terrible time with tariffs  

Let's make sure we understand the margins at play here: 50% is above average, 43% is meh,7 points Biden was meh his last 2 years, and the DNC pushed 43% MEH BIDEN, he was packaged, pushed, and presented as the best Presidential material the Progressive LBGTQ caucas had to offer. 
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Im not happy with all of his moves, but obviously 50% of those polled think he is doing just fine. Thats the DNC's problem, Trump's 50% after such controversial hot-button issues have been addressed, shows for now that half the country believes Trump is the cat's pajamas. 
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to America's biggest CEOs: Stop worrying

This is where Trump's base is; they stopped worrying and are essentially nourished daily by the left's sodium-infused tears.

I know you have your narrative to repeat over and over, but he has not fulfilled any of his promises and people who are losing their jobs, businesses, farms, and retirement savings cannot stop worrying.

[Oldcarpy2]

All Im suggesting is the left can't help themselves and are making the same mistakes they did his 1st term. 

As for fulfilling promises, why do you think his polling is so high? The left's constant attacks have grown Trump's base significantly, Republicans who shunned him 4 years ago are now saying, let him cook after the terrible time with tariffs  

Let's make sure we understand the margins at play here: 50% is above average, 43% is meh,7 points Biden was meh his last 2 years, and the DNC pushed 43% MEH BIDEN, he was packaged, pushed, and presented as the best Presidential material the Progressive LBGTQ caucas had to offer. 
[Image: https://media0.giphy.com/media/sljlwb80lCjp6/giphy.gif]

Im not happy with all of his moves, but obviously 50% of those polled think he is doing just fine. Thats the DNC's problem, Trump's 50% after such controversial hot-button issues have been addressed, shows for now that half the country believes Trump is the cat's pajamas. 
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to America's biggest CEOs: Stop worrying

This is where Trump's base is; they stopped worrying and are essentially nourished daily by the left's sodium-infused tears.

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Your Rasmussen Poll is based on a daily survey of 300 likely voters!

You need to look at more polls rather than cherry picking.

[putnam6]

I know you have your narrative to repeat over and over, but he has not fulfilled any of his promises and people who are losing their jobs, businesses, farms, and retirement savings cannot stop worrying.

Haha I have no narrative here Im just posting and discussing shit because Im bored AF. I can just as easily argue the opposing view, if Im upsetting you

Which is the ultimate point, we are so closely divided as a population and are opposites on several key issues, all the emotional angst, worry, and undue concern from the left just gets old and is exhausting.

Ive lost my job 3 times since the beginning of COVID., Farms are fine, prices are coming down, like most Americans, no retirement savings The little savings I had were spent during COVID  

Unemployment is currently 4.2%

228,000 jobs were added to the workforce recently

Net farm income is up

• Americans' "magic number" to retire comfortably in 2025 is $1.26 million – which is $200,000 less than what was reported last year, according to a new study.
  
• The research, published by Northwestern Mutual, also found that 25% have just one year or less of their current annual income put aside for retirement.
  
• More than half (51%) of Americans think it's "somewhat or very likely" that they’ll outlive their retirement savings.
  

[quintessentone]

Haha I have no narrative here Im just posting and discussing shit because Im bored AF. I can just as easily argue the opposing view, if Im upsetting you

Which is the ultimate point, we are so closely divided as a population and are opposites on several key issues, all the emotional angst, worry, and undue concern from the left just gets old and is exhausting.

Ive lost my job 3 times since the beginning of COVID., Farms are fine, prices are coming down, like most Americans, no retirement savings The little savings I had were spent during COVID  

Unemployment is currently 4.2%

228,000 jobs were added to the workforce recently

Net farm income is up

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Your source data is from February, before tariffs, got any recent data? And it's nonfarm:

"Nonfarm payroll employment refers to the number of employed individuals in the United States, excluding those working in agriculture, private households, and non-profit organizations. It's a key economic indicator used to gauge the health of the US labor market."

So not the big picture.

Consumer confidence is at it's lowest level - April, 2025:
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_consum...ment_index

[Oldcarpy2]

Haha I have no narrative here Im just posting and discussing shit because Im bored AF. I can just as easily argue the opposing view, if Im upsetting you

Which is the ultimate point, we are so closely divided as a population and are opposites on several key issues, all the emotional angst, worry, and undue concern from the left just gets old and is exhausting.

Ive lost my job 3 times since the beginning of COVID., Farms are fine, prices are coming down, like most Americans, no retirement savings The little savings I had were spent during COVID  

Unemployment is currently 4.2%

228,000 jobs were added to the workforce recently

Net farm income is up

[Image: https://ers.usda.gov/sites/default/files...20real.png]

Firstly, those farm figures are forecasts, secondly, they are only up to before the tariffs.

Come on, man. Who are you trying to fool?

[putnam6]

Your source data is from February, before tariffs, got any recent data? And it's nonfarm:

"Nonfarm payroll employment refers to the number of employed individuals in the United States, excluding those working in agriculture, private households, and non-profit organizations. It's a key economic indicator used to gauge the health of the US labor market."

So not the big picture.

Consumer confidence is at it's lowest level - April, 2025:
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_consum...ment_index

Oh noes, what will we do... 

If we look at the Consumer Confidence from the last 10 years it shows we are down just like we were right before Trump took office in his first term. 


Here's all the dips in consumer confidence Ive weathered over the years. Note how deep they go, and note how minuscule we are down now compared to the last 4-5 years. 16 larger dips in the economy in my adult lifetime than the current dip in consumer confidence. The bigger picture suggests we were due for a down turn, let's see where we are next quarter

[quintessentone]

Oh noes, what will we do... 

If we look at the Consumer Confidence from the last 10 years it shows we are down just like we were right before Trump took office in his first term. 
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Here's all the dips in consumer confidence Ive weathered over the years. Note how deep they go, and note how minuscule we are down now compared to the last 4-5 years. 16 larger dips in the economy in my adult lifetime than the current dip in consumer confidence. 


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It's too early to tell. Let's revisit this next month as there should be significant indicators where the economy is heading.

Can you really argue for the other side? I'd like to see that. lol

[Oldcarpy2]

Oh noes, what will we do... 

If we look at the Consumer Confidence from the last 10 years it shows we are down just like we were right before Trump took office in his first term. 
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Here's all the dips in consumer confidence Ive weathered over the years. Note how deep they go, and note how minuscule we are down now compared to the last 4-5 years. 16 larger dips in the economy in my adult lifetime than the current dip in consumer confidence. 


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The biggest dip was cos of...COVID.

I think you are using statistics rather..... disengenuosly.

[UltraBudgie]

those number are wrong and those numbers are outdated and you're not reading them correctly and anyway i don't believe in numbers!

vote giant meteor + bored af, for a better 2028

[putnam6]

It's too early to tell. Let's revisit this next month as there should be significant indicators where the economy is heading.

Can you really argue for the other side? I'd like to see that. lol

Sure I can, LOL, it might confuse some people on here. All you have to do is read the news in Eyore's voice...

I just don't find the situation as dire as it is made out to be. Time will indeed tell. I do expect it to get worse before it gets better.  There are a lot of moving parts going on here, tariff negotiations on a scale never attempted before.