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More than 50 countries have reached out to the President to begin tariff negotiations
It's INTERTWINED AND RELATED especially in regards to China 



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(04-10-2025, 08:10 AM)putnam6 Wrote: It's INTERTWINED AND RELATED especially in regards to China 



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Talk about poking the Dragon.
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Care to guess how many acres of farmland the US owns in China?

In my industry, 70-80% if not more imported from China and the US can't sell a single stitch in China.

Yet China knocks off products and sells to the American end consumer, which kneecaps our clients ie
(American stores)bottom line

It's not fair or balanced in any way shape or form in both instances
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(04-10-2025, 08:40 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Care to guess how many acres of farmland the US owns in China?

In my industry, 70-80% if not more imported from China and the US can't sell a single stitch in China.

Yet China knocks off products and sells to the American end consumer, which kneecaps our clients ie
(American stores)bottom line

It's not fair or balanced in any way shape or form in both instances

The question then becomes How much do businesses/manufacturing rely on Chinese imports?

Balancing the field requires negotiations, not tariffs. Tariffs are a tax on the end consumer.

All of this posturing between the U.S. and China is not only ridiculous IMO, but detrimental to all concerned.
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(04-10-2025, 08:10 AM)putnam6 Wrote: It's INTERTWINED AND RELATED especially in regards to China 



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About time someone held China repsonsible for the lab leak wich caused a global pandemic.
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(04-10-2025, 08:44 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The question then becomes How much do businesses/manufacturing rely on Chinese imports?

Balancing the field requires negotiations, not tariffs. Tariffs are a tax on the end consumer.

All of this posturing between the U.S. and China is not only ridiculous IMO, but detrimental to all concerned.

Depends on how long it lasts... Im concerned selfishly for the Clothing and Apparel industry anything past July or August will take a huge chunk out of our busiest season where routinely 60-70% of our wholesale business is done from August through September.

Eventually, each industry sector will negotiate terms some will be at an impasse longer than others, for example, the last time our supplier (2018?) ate a large chunk of the imposed tariffs because our company threatened to buy in other countries. 

The good news since COVID-19 big firms have plenty of stock but there will no doubt be fewer new Spring 26 styles. Hell getting samples alone if it isn't a mess it will do till the real mess gets here.

Companies in both countries are nudging their respective politicians going hey we need help
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(04-10-2025, 09:02 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Depends on how long it lasts... Im concerned selfishly for the Clothing and Apparel industry anything past July or August will take a huge chunk out of our busiest season where routinely 60-70% of our wholesale business is done from August through September.

Eventually, each industry sector will negotiate terms some will be at an impasse longer than others, for example, the last time our supplier (2018?) ate a large chunk of the imposed tariffs because our company threatened to buy in other countries. 

The good news since COVID-19 big firms have plenty of stock but there will no doubt be fewer new Spring 26 styles. Hell getting samples alone if it isn't a mess it will do till the real mess gets here.

Companies in both countries are nudging their respective politicians going hey we need help

Meanwhile, I'm watching the stock markets and listening to economic experts warning of a coming 'recession' and 'inflation'. Have you factored in that one-two-three punch?
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(04-10-2025, 09:09 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Meanwhile, I'm watching the stock markets and listening to economic experts warning of a coming 'recession' and 'inflation'. Have you factored in that one-two-three punch?

just worse-case scenarios and fears. Chances are the FEDS cut the interest rate in May
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Tariffs on Chyyna are now at 145%  Lol [Image: bernpop.gif]
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European Union Continues to Move Towards Trump Trade Deal with Pause on Metals Tariffs
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The European Union has suspended its announced retaliatory tariffs against the United States in favour of negotiating a deal, saying it has “taken note” of Trump’s tariff pause on every country except China.
“We want to give negotiations a chance”, said the head of the European Commission on Thursday as she mirrored President Donald Trump’s move to suspend tariffs worldwide except for trade war-minded China.

 The European Union only passed its “retaliatory duties” on Wednesday afternoon, a response to Donald Trump’s steel and aluminium tariffs, which had been watered down from earlier proposals and came in at only a fraction of what the U.S. proposed to impose. Now just hours later even that mild response has been suspended, with Ursula von der Leyen saying “we took note of the announcement by President Trump” and saying they would put their measures “on hold for 90 days”.

 This is to allow negotiations for a trade deal to take place and if successful the EU’s tariff boost — of course the Union already has a broad network of tariffs and other trade barriers to protect its domestic market which have been in place for many years — would be cancelled altogether.
  
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