More than 50 countries have reached out to the President to begin tariff negotiations

[Oldcarpy2]

So you think that is what this is? 

So what's theory cause he lost his ass the first term, and now the most watched and investigated President is going to scam the world for how much on the market for a day or 2 there are gains there but they arent that huge. 

It makes no sense...

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[putnam6]

Why wouldn't it make sense?

"Wash Rinse. Repeat", right?

Trump made a post on his "Truth" media this morning, just before announcing the tariff delays, saying that it was a "good time to buy". Many are claiming that this "conveniently coincidental" post was tantamount to "insider trading". Which would be illegal....Unless you could claim that you were acting in your " official capacity" as President to try to calm the Nation's fears. An action for which you would be immune from prosecution. 

Making a few million bucks through your, mandated, blind trust holdings is just icing on the cake.


Trump stated that he paused the tariffs today (temporarily) because " people were getting yippy" about bond sell-offs.

Given that China holds a significant amount in US bonds, Trump has (inadvertently?) tipped his handling regard to negotiating with China: China can threaten Trump's economy by manipulating its US bond holdings.

No, it doesn't make sense the guy has plenty of legit revenue streams I'd check his holdings in the 300 billion dollars Taiwanese computer chip manufacturer before speculation on overall market manipulation BS

This is a never-ending Roadrunner(Trump) and Wiley Coyote(The Left)

 

This sounds like the Congressional-sponsored rumor Trump is selling memberships to Mar-a-Lago to foreign heads of state to lower thier country's tariffs. FFS  

Yeah, let's file Impeachment charges and investigate Donald J Trump AGAIN, wasting time and money on something that would be incredibly naive to attempt it's an obvious claim from his detractors. 

I heard it for a week "he is crashing the market" and "It will kill our economy"

Then he paused it and now"It is market manipulation" 

Here's what Grok says about China and their US Treasury Bonds is it wrong and how?

It implies China would be hurt a lot more in a Treasury Bond dump I don't know but I've heard this explanation over and over from multiple sources.

Im not suggesting Trump's not enriching himself through other deals, just this scheme seems like a publically known small potatoes scheme compared to what he could make with various other inside knowledge 

  https://x.com/i/grok/share/s4ajOB2UJxwuJrqrfDuREXXKs

China could potentially disrupt the U.S. economy by selling off a large portion of its U.S. Treasury bonds, but "crashing" the U.S. economy is a more complex outcome that depends on several factors. Let’s break it down.
China holds a significant amount of U.S. Treasury securities—about $800 billion as of late 2024, making it one of the largest foreign holders alongside Japan. If China decided to dump these bonds rapidly, it could flood the market, driving down bond prices and pushing up yields (interest rates). Higher yields mean the U.S. government would face increased borrowing costs, which could ripple through the economy, raising rates for mortgages, loans, and more. This might slow economic growth, spook markets, and weaken the dollar temporarily.
However, there are limits to how much damage this could do. First, the U.S. Treasury market is massive—over $27 trillion in outstanding debt—so China’s holdings are only about 3% of the total. A sell-off would be disruptive but not necessarily catastrophic. The Federal Reserve could step in, buying bonds to stabilize rates, as it’s done in past crises. Second, China would hurt itself in the process. Selling bonds en masse would depress their value, costing China billions in losses. It could also weaken the dollar, making Chinese exports to the U.S. less competitive—a big deal for their economy.
Historically, people have speculated about this "financial weapon" idea, but it’s a double-edged sword. China relies on a stable U.S. economy for trade—over $500 billion in exports annually—so crashing it would boomerang. Plus, other global investors (Japan, Europe, domestic U.S. holders) might scoop up the bonds, cushioning the blow.
Could it cause a recession? Maybe, if timed with other shocks—like a banking crisis or geopolitical conflict. A full crash, though? That’s less likely without a perfect storm. China’s more likely to use its bond holdings as leverage in negotiations than to tank the system outright

[putnam6]

so is trade war target china because retaliation china hack in us government spy system backdoors and steal lockheedmartin secret alien drone tech prototype data build their own and fly haha over cia last year? plausible deny ability.

edit haha credible evidence ai no eyes to see:

Thats where Im on this, it is a complex as-hell situation all sides involved are going to say different things that may or may not be factual. We have no idea what is simmering behind the scenes, moves, and counter moves, China is no doubt pissed about the Taiwanese computer chip company opening a US plant. 

I don't know I just have opinions and questions and I dig talking about it... its not easy to do anywhere else X and Reddit is too chaotic

[Encia22]

I’m not an economics type of guy and even less so, politically inclined; but I like theatre and puzzles. Anyway, yesterday, I was watching the stock market indices out of the corner of my eye, when the announcement was made of pausing tariffs, except for China.

Shortly afterwards, once the burnt out European markets had closed, and the US stock market went berserk, Trump’s plan all made sense. So, I reckon he wanted to target China from the get-go, but didn’t want to look like the bad guy. Enter the distraction: Throw out a blanket tariffs low blow to the whole world… and some penguins. 

Then, after a lot of trading floor theatrics, including forcing China to become the antagonist, pull back the blanket and leaving China’s tootsies exposed for 125% hike. All the while, the script was meant to be as naturalistic as possible. As a bonus, Trump fast-tracked the other countries to the negotiation table, which would otherwise have taken years to accomplish.

In all the mayhem, though, I believe many here are right, and those in the know got the chance to inflate their portfolios.

Today, the ‘Insider trading’ shadow has crept across to Europe and is in the crosshairs.

From the Guardian:

 

Donald Trump is facing accusations of market manipulation after posting on social media that it was a “great time to buy” just hours before he made a dramatic U-turn on his trade war that led to big rises in stock markets around the world.

Shortly after American markets opened on Wednesday morning, Trump wrote on his social media platform Truth Social: “THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BUY!!! DJT”.

 

Trump does not usually sign off his post with his initials. Those letters happen to be the same as the ticker for Trump Media & Technology Group, the business that controls Truth Social, whose stock shot up by 22% on Wednesday.

The timing of the US president’s posts and subsequent huge share jumps has sparked accusations of market manipulation. The Democratic senator Adam Schiff has already called for an investigation, saying: “These constant gyrations in policy provide dangerous opportunities for insider trading.

 :beer:

[putnam6]

I’m not an economics type of guy and even less so, politically inclined; but I like theatre and puzzles. Anyway, yesterday, I was watching the stock market indices out of the corner of my eye, when the announcement was made of pausing tariffs, except for China.

Shortly afterwards, once the burnt out European markets had closed, and the US stock market went berserk, Trump’s plan all made sense. So, I reckon he wanted to target China from the get-go, but didn’t want to look like the bad guy. Enter the distraction: Throw out a blanket tariffs low blow to the whole world… and some penguins. 

Then, after a lot of trading floor theatrics, including forcing China to become the antagonist, pull back the blanket and leaving China’s tootsies exposed for 125% hike. All the while, the script was meant to be as naturalistic as possible. As a bonus, Trump fast-tracked the other countries to the negotiation table, which would otherwise have taken years to accomplish.

In all the mayhem, though, I believe many here are right, and those in the know got the chance to inflate their portfolios.

Today, the ‘Insider trading’ shadow has crept across to Europe and is in the crosshairs.

From the Guardian:

 
 

 :beer:

And dollars to doughnuts the left will file articles of Impeachment again. Haha I bet it's on Polymarket

You may be apolitical but you have a reasonable and rational mind, your posts often make me pause and research your points. 

I do not know I don't profess to know I just have my opinions and try to post why I have those opinions. I could be wrong I often am. On these issues where Im completely naive Im here to hash this out and come to an intelligent consensus, because I do have people Im responsible for asking what's going on. How is this going to affect us, used to one could EASILY find resources on the internet hell I did, but now it's a minefield of propaganda or fake stories.

Everything China-related factors into the motivation behind these tariff wars, some of this is about our national security, the previous administration left the back door open. 

https://x.com/MAGAVoice/status/1910154298606162096

[Encia22]

Perhaps, being apolitical helps me see through the fog and critique these situations from an audience standpoint; analyzing the cinematic plot-points. It doesn't always equate to what is reality, but it keeps my creativity sharp.

And thanks, putnam6, I respect your musings, too.

:beer:

[putnam6]

Perhaps, being apolitical helps me see through the fog and critique these situations from an audience standpoint; analyzing the cinematic plot-points. It doesn't always equate to what is reality, but it keeps my creativity sharp.

And thanks, putnam6, I respect your musings, too.

:beer:

Musings haha it's the perfect definition of my posts. They are all musings admittedly so,   

It's like the one poster on ATS a while back suggested I was "out of my depth" No kidding Im sitting on the beach I might jump in when I get hot, but im not exploring the depths of anything here. 

I have very little opportunity to muse in real life..

Been watching a lot of Victor Davis Hanson lately...

[quintessentone]

Cool, still wondering how much money was made by a specific few today? I mean, glad the tariff thing seems to be a bunch of super awesome smoke and mirrors 4D chess being played by Trump. Not that's it's important or anything that he potentially manipulated the stock market so a few people could make even more money and widen the class division. China though....

A news station said that it had to do with China's dramatic sell-off of U.S. bonds. So his advisors had to say something, and so after letting his inside people know what he was about to do, he then tweeted on his platform that people should buy now. As if the 'little' people (or as Vance would call them 'peasants') have the means to buy stocks. So what type of behaviour is that?

Trump is making it up as he goes along.

[quintessentone]

Musings haha it's the perfect definition of my posts. They are all musings admittedly so,   

It's like the one poster on ATS a while back suggested I was "out of my depth" No kidding Im sitting on the beach I might jump in when I get hot, but im not exploring the depths of anything here. 

I have very little opportunity to muse in real life..

Been watching a lot of Victor Davis Hanson lately...

[Video: https://youtu.be/3pvEKlQTj2Q?si=GrmLTDxxvGZhHOmT]

It's difficult to know from one minute to the next what will transpire with this tariff war. Trumps risks the African countries to start trading with the South American countries and push other countries to perhaps turn to China. Trump may think he has the upper hand, but he may be in for a hard lesson.

[Chiefsmom]

I thought the whole point of all this, was to renegotiate Tariffs with other countries, because we were getting bent over in a lot of them?

At least that is what I saw going on and a surprising amount of our customers that come in and talk about it.