More than 50 countries have reached out to the President to begin tariff negotiations

[xuenchen]

China holds @ 750 billion US Bonds.

If they offload them, wouldn't that crash the Dollar?

No it wouldn't crash the Dollar, because U.S. Treasury Bonds and Notes sell at market price on the open markets.  The U.S. Treasury only pays off for known interest and when a Bond matures.

[xuenchen]

 China has the production facilities already in place that will allow it to merely shift its market to other countries; countries which are also now under US tariff pressure and may be looking to "jump ship".

The US (and therefore Walmart, Target, etc.) has, for years, outsourced its production facilities to other countries (ie. China), and will not be able to to replace that production capacity for years.

Never start a war with the enemy who makes your ammo.

Can you explain with real examples? Kinda sounds backwards. 

Why do you think China hasn't sold anything to markets you say will open?

 

[xuenchen]

So Trump wants isolation, BRICS+ may give the U.S. dollar isolation in the very near future.

https://investingnews.com/brics-currency/

Trump just took away his leverage by imposing tariffs any way, so there is nothing to stop these countries from going ahead with a new BRICS+ gold-backed currency.

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How do Tariffs take away leverage? Sounds funky 

[putnam6]

Oldcarpy2 Wrote:China holds @ 750 billion US Bonds.

If they offload them, wouldn't that crash the Dollar?

According to Grok....we really shouldn't whinge hysteric hyperbole about China happily trying to crash the dollar.
Again I don't know but the explanation below makes perfect logical sense, does it not?

https://x.com/i/grok/share/GFmbFHkMrX7cLWI3HOV6mwtgo

[RickyD]

China holds @ 750 billion US Bonds.

If they offload them, wouldn't that crash the Dollar?

If multiple trillions could be raised for AI investments I would think less than a trillion could be sorted out to save the dollar. China really doesn't hold a lot of cards and their whole economy is based on exports of which we are the very large majority. They also spend government money to subsidize their industry already...I would expect that would tank them faster than us. Also they have a GDP thats 1/3 or so less than the US so the pool of invome is still less to work with on their side.

Will it hurt everyone...sure...but we are really the best suited in the world to ride it out. As bad as it would be for us for anyone else it will be worse to much much worse.

[Oldcarpy2]

Oldcarpy2 Wrote:China holds @ 750 billion US Bonds.

If they offload them, wouldn't that crash the Dollar?

According to Grok....we really shouldn't whinge hysteric hyperbole about China happily trying to crash the dollar.
Again I don't know but the explanation below makes perfect logical sense, does it not?

https://x.com/i/grok/share/GFmbFHkMrX7cLWI3HOV6mwtgo

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I wasn't whinging or being hysterical - just asking a question.

[quintessentone]

I wasn't whinging or being hysterical - just asking a question.

Grok is easily triggered, it appears.

[putnam6]

FWIW Polymarket has $730,147 in volume bet on tariffs being reduced before June, with the highest percentage believing we will see lots of reductions AKA 

[quintessentone]

FWIW Polymarket has $730,147 in volume bet on tariffs being reduced before June, with the highest percentage believing we will see lots of reductions AKA 

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It's difficult to know exactly what will happen as now Trump is talking about offering a tariff credit to businesses at the end of the year. So why have a trade war to begin with when some businesses will benefit from this credit...oh wait, tax the little people is the only way forward (?) - e.g. tariff 10%, give back business 5%, keep 5% for who knows what.

[putnam6]

Grok is easily triggered, it appears.

Respectfully I can't let Grok be blamed for my malfeasance in using verbiage that may or may not be associated with being 'triggered". Additionally, how can one be triggered when Im this way most of the time, Im in my element but regrettably my tone comes from those years spent in a family business.

If I am triggered in any way shape or form it's that I'm enjoying the discussion here, it is better than other places a lot better.   

The extra traffic is fantastic...