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(05-13-2025, 09:33 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Israel Radar

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White House says Trump signed largest defense deal in history with Saudi Arabia, worth over $140 billion, providing the Saudis with advanced military gear and related services.

How does this affect the US commitment to ensure Israel's military edge? We'll wait for more details.

So the U.S.A. will always fall back on benefiting from war...so much for peace.
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(05-13-2025, 09:36 AM)quintessentone Wrote: So the U.S.A. will always fall back on benefiting from war...so much for peace.

Without a firm commitment to peace, war would not be as profitable. Smile

And why does everyone seem to assume that "Saudi Arabia" = "Arabs" = "Enemy of Israel"? That's a little simplistic, isn't it? Remember the story of the secret sisters, one went to the synagogue, the other to the mosque...

Trade dependency is a form of warfare. China learned this some time ago, lol. They're called "trade wars" after all. Natural that they should have a foundation in the tools of empire. Didn't the English realize this first, after they cut down all their trees that could be used as shipmasts?
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Didn't the English realize this first, after they cut down all their trees that could be used as shipmasts?"

When did that happen?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(05-13-2025, 09:47 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Without a firm commitment to peace, war would not be as profitable. Smile

And why does everyone seem to assume that "Saudi Arabia" = "Arabs" = "Enemy of Israel"? That's a little simplistic, isn't it? Remember the story of the secret sisters, one went to the synagogue, the other to the mosque...

Trade dependency is a form of warfare. China learned this some time ago, lol. They're called "trade wars" after all. Natural that they should have a foundation in the tools of empire. Didn't the English realize this first, after they cut down all their trees that could be used as shipmasts?

"On the other hand, it is always one of the most important buyers of military weapons in the world and has stored a large volume of military equipment in its warehouses. But in recent years, this country has been directly involved in the region’s military conflicts; it has supported militant groups in the region; its military force has entered Bahrain and has been fighting Yemen for more than two years. Therefore, Saudi Arabia clearly has set off an aggressive strategy in its foreign policy agenda, and the nature of its defense and military strategy seems to have changed dramatically."

"Although military cooperation between the United States and Saudi Arabia has a long history, after the arrival of Donald Trump, this cooperation has increased and during his visit to Saudi Arabia, unprecedented contracts for the sale of military equipment to Saudi Arabia have been signed.
According to some analysts, in recent months, Saudi cooperation with Israel has increased. Therefore, its cooperation with the United States is defined in the context of the unification of the United States with Israel. On the other hand, Saudi Arabia has shown enormous hostility to Iran over the past two years. Therefore, the US-Saudi alliance can be against the interests of Iran. Saudi Arabia is also intrigued by crises and issues that may cause unrest and, by approaching the United States, it wants to crack down on possible unrest. Therefore, Israel and the region, Iran and domestic issues are the main components of Saudi-US relations."

https://iiwfs.com/en/the-military-strate...di-arabia/

Profiting on war, plain and simple. Some things never change.
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(05-13-2025, 09:53 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "
Didn't the English realize this first, after they cut down all their trees that could be used as shipmasts?"

When did that happen?

The concern about deforestation in England, particularly regarding the availability of trees for ship masts, became prominent in the 17th and 18th centuries. The English navy relied heavily on tall, straight trees, particularly oak, for constructing ships. By the late 17th century, there was growing awareness that the demand for timber was leading to significant deforestation, which could jeopardize naval power.

The issue was particularly acute during the 18th century, as the British Empire expanded and the need for ships increased. The government took measures to protect certain forests and promote reforestation, recognizing the strategic importance of maintaining a supply of timber for shipbuilding. The Royal Navy's reliance on wood for ships was a key factor in these conservation efforts.

While the exact timeline of deforestation and the realization of its consequences is complex, the awareness of the need for sustainable forestry practices in relation to shipbuilding became more pronounced during this period.


Quick AI summary. It's actually a fascinating topic.
(05-13-2025, 09:36 AM)quintessentone Wrote: So the U.S.A. will always fall back on benefiting from war...so much for peace.

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(05-13-2025, 10:47 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: The concern about deforestation in England, particularly regarding the availability of trees for ship masts, became prominent in the 17th and 18th centuries. The English navy relied heavily on tall, straight trees, particularly oak, for constructing ships. By the late 17th century, there was growing awareness that the demand for timber was leading to significant deforestation, which could jeopardize naval power.

The issue was particularly acute during the 18th century, as the British Empire expanded and the need for ships increased. The government took measures to protect certain forests and promote reforestation, recognizing the strategic importance of maintaining a supply of timber for shipbuilding. The Royal Navy's reliance on wood for ships was a key factor in these conservation efforts.

While the exact timeline of deforestation and the realization of its consequences is complex, the awareness of the need for sustainable forestry practices in relation to shipbuilding became more pronounced during this period.



Quick AI summary. It's actually a fascinating topic.
Yes, but they didn't cut down all their trees?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(05-13-2025, 10:53 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Yes, but they didn't cut down all their trees?

They didn't want the French making fun of their crooked masts. Smile
(05-13-2025, 10:58 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: They didn't want the French making fun of their crooked masts. Smile

The French masts didn't fare too well.... Spin
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(05-13-2025, 10:48 AM)putnam6 Wrote: [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...992014.gif]

Yeah, I get you, facing reality and facts can be a downer when one's mind is closed to it.

Fact checking Trump's rhetoric/distractions from the grift.


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