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David Grusch Lies to Members of Congress and States Steven Greer is Russian Agent
#21
I don't believe Greer is a Russian agent, but i do believe he is involved in US military intelligence. I found Grusch interesting until it turned out that  DOPSA were involved. That's hardly a whistleblower in my definition anyway. A real whistleblower would give names and dates regardless. Like Snowden. We need a Snowden type whistleblower. Someone who is willing to put it all on the line.
They covert their technology the same way they covert their art.
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(07-16-2025, 07:48 AM)kode13 Wrote: I don't believe Greer is a Russian agent, but i do believe he is involved in US military intelligence. I found Grusch interesting until it turned out that  DOPSA were involved. That's hardly a whistleblower in my definition anyway. A real whistleblower would give names and dates regardless. Like Snowden. We need a Snowden type whistleblower. Someone who is willing to put it all on the line.

I agree.  All of Elizondo's and Grusch's testimony at the congressional hearings were 75% them saying that they were not allowed to answer the question because it would violate their Non-Disclosure Agreements and threaten their security clearances etc.

What The Disclosure Project has been saying all along is that the covert military operations involved in keeping the UFO subject secret, and the ones involved with the technologies, are an illegal operation.  Therefore, they cannot use the law to scare people into not talking, because their entire clandestine enterprise is illegal.  So all whistleblowers should tell names, dates, locations, technologies, all on the record, in the congressional hearings, on camera, for the whole world to see.  Greer has been saying that all along, and he has high-caliber whistleblowers that have been threatened, and he is hoping to have them protected and come forward soon.
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(07-16-2025, 09:13 PM)greymagick Wrote:  

I hope Greer comes up with something, i know a lot of people don't like Greer, but his National Press Club conference of 2001 should be recognised as one of the major breakthroughs in Ufology. I like Greer he makes me laugh, the man has a huge ego, doesn't mix well on MSM and prefers to interview himself.

He did however do a good interview on YouTube with Shawn Ryan who gave him a gun as a gift, although it appears they have edited the gift giving part of the interview which is at the end of episode #048 and now you see Greer receive a heavy bag of goodies from which he pulls out the gummies and Shawn says "Legal in all 50 states" Greer laughs holds up the bag and says "Really".

I don't give much weight to any of the new crew on the UFO circuit, Elizondo, Mellon, Grusch, Barber, i think they are putting people off. At first i wasn't sure but now i think its just BS.
They covert their technology the same way they covert their art.
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I ended up getting into the UFO/paranormal/conspiracy world online around 2003, shortly after the National Press Club event.  I was quite flabbergasted by the whole thing myself, and I have been following the UFO disclosure movement ever since.  I just bought a 2025 briefing document from The Disclosure Project to get caught up on all the more recent whistleblowers who have come since 2001.

Not as many people have caught on to the 2023 National Press Club event, held by Greer and several new witnesses.  But one of the highlights of that press conference was the testimony of Michael Herrera, US Marine Corps, who witnessed a covert military/man-made UFO in the jungles of Indonesia, off-loading drugs and weapons (and possibly human trafficking victims):






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